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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2017

      emptywheel Retweeted Glenn Greenwald

      Not only is this hyperbole ("most humiliating in ages"? hardly!), but it gets the circumstances of what got provided wrong (WikiLeaks didn't publish these files).https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/939514422422319106 …

      emptywheel added,

      Glenn GreenwaldVerified account @ggreenwald
      The U.S. Media Yesterday Suffered its Most Humiliating Debacle in Ages: Now Refuses All Transparency Over What Happened https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/ …
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      19 replies 50 retweets 192 likes
    2. Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald 9 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Which specific sentence or claim in the article are you saying is inaccurate?

      2 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2017
      Replying to @ggreenwald

      Wikileaks didn't publish the data. It is attributed to Guccifer 2.0 (though that attribution has always been really curious). Wikileaks only published a link to it.

      4 replies 3 retweets 9 likes
    4. Emma Best (ᴜ//ғᴏᴜᴏ)  🏳️‍🌈‏ @NatSecGeek 9 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

      Why was that attribution curious? G2 dropped the files and WL asked me to put them into a torrent, which they then tweeted.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2017
      Replying to @NatSecGeek @ggreenwald

      Any idea why G2 never linked to them directly from the WP site?

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @NatSecGeek @ggreenwald

      One reason I'm so interested is bc the file is at the core of the skeptics' rebuttals but they've never thought through how it got posted or why it wasn't posted to the WP site.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Emma Best (ᴜ//ғᴏᴜᴏ)  🏳️‍🌈‏ @NatSecGeek 9 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

      "G2" used a variety of drop sites and a couple of fronts for variety. The WP site had previously had stuff removed because of content that was dropped there.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2017
      Replying to @NatSecGeek @ggreenwald

      Yes. I'm aware of that. But there's no evidence that happened with this particular file/link.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Emma Best (ᴜ//ғᴏᴜᴏ)  🏳️‍🌈‏ @NatSecGeek 9 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

      It didn't, but it still provides a reason: a larger dump would be vulnerable at the WP site and could endanger the rest of the content, plus the publicity of dropping it there and the mystery surrounding it. Plus IIRC the content and provenance of it was questionable. /1

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Emma Best (ᴜ//ғᴏᴜᴏ)  🏳️‍🌈‏ @NatSecGeek 9 Dec 2017
      Replying to @NatSecGeek @emptywheel @ggreenwald

      So putting it on the WP site would have carried several risks with it, including tainting the rest of the contents there (some of which was modified). 2/2

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2017
      Replying to @NatSecGeek @ggreenwald

      Is this your speculation or was that explained to you, if you're willing to say?

      8:06 AM - 9 Dec 2017
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        1. Emma Best (ᴜ//ғᴏᴜᴏ)  🏳️‍🌈‏ @NatSecGeek 9 Dec 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

          The conclusion? Informed speculation.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Dec 2017
          Replying to @NatSecGeek @ggreenwald

          Thanks. Better informed speculation than anyone else, though.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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