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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Brian Beutler‏Verified account @brianbeutler 8 Dec 2017
      Replying to @ggreenwald @emptywheel @bmaz

      It’s a problem with 280 characters, not the word. But yes, context matters. “Colluding” with spies who stole your opponents emails > “colluding” with an oppo researcher > “colluding” with U.S. Bank arena to schedule a rally.

      7 replies 1 retweet 43 likes
    2. Brian Beutler‏Verified account @brianbeutler 8 Dec 2017
      Replying to @brianbeutler @ggreenwald and

      It’s not my word, I didn’t foist it on to the discourse, but I think people who stridently object to it are being a bit obtuse.

      2 replies 0 retweets 29 likes
    3. Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald 8 Dec 2017
      Replying to @brianbeutler @emptywheel @bmaz

      I think when "collusion" was first being tossed around, it meant: did the Trump campaign criminally conspire with the Russians to hack DNC/Podesta emails? Once people mostly abandoned that line, "collusion" has expanded greatly since then to the point of meaninglessness.

      9 replies 3 retweets 9 likes
    4. Brian Beutler‏Verified account @brianbeutler 8 Dec 2017
      Replying to @ggreenwald @emptywheel @bmaz

      Some people may have meant it that way. That would be really bad. But lesser forms of collusion (cooperation whatever) are also bad.

      2 replies 0 retweets 23 likes
    5. Brian Beutler‏Verified account @brianbeutler 8 Dec 2017
      Replying to @brianbeutler @ggreenwald and

      From my perspective, the effort to set the bar at criminal conspiracy has been the Trump tactic, and to dismiss anything under that as normal politics. Reading back on this thread, it’s been an effective tactic!

      4 replies 7 retweets 89 likes
    6. Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald 8 Dec 2017
      Replying to @brianbeutler @emptywheel @bmaz

      When there is a Special Prosecutor quite active, issuing subpoenas and indictments, the question of what is and isn't criminal is going to be important. It isn't the only important question, of course, but it's certainly one of them!

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    7. Brian Beutler‏Verified account @brianbeutler 8 Dec 2017
      Replying to @ggreenwald @emptywheel @bmaz

      I agree. I anticipate I’ll use different language if/when Mueller charges people with actual crimes.

      2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    8. Brian Beutler‏Verified account @brianbeutler 8 Dec 2017
      Replying to @brianbeutler @ggreenwald and

      Or rather charges more people with crimes related to the election.

      4 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
    9. Brett Kavanaugh Is A Sex Offender‏ @theminorchords 8 Dec 2017
      Replying to @brianbeutler @ggreenwald and

      Honestly, this whole Russia story has become so convoluted that I don't even know what value it has politically at this point beyond the damage it has already done. That doesn't change the fact that the investigation is important. But I don't expect further damage.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Brett Kavanaugh Is A Sex Offender‏ @theminorchords 8 Dec 2017
      Replying to @theminorchords @brianbeutler and

      I also think the results of the investigation are going to be very confusing to a lot of people, particularly those that are less intensely partisan (i.e. most of America). Democrats got out over their skis and Republicans muddied the water. Don't over-invest in this story.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Dec 2017
      Replying to @theminorchords @brianbeutler and

      Maybe. Maybe it'll get really clear really quickly?? Who knows what Bob Mueller knows?

      9:56 AM - 8 Dec 2017
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        2. Brett Kavanaugh Is A Sex Offender‏ @theminorchords 8 Dec 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @brianbeutler and

          I just know I consume a lot of politics and I'm crazy confused and exhausted by the story at this point, particularly the legal aspects of it. And it's not a topic that any of my IRL friends ever discuss anymore.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Dec 2017
          Replying to @theminorchords @brianbeutler and

          Fair point. I live in flyover and not many people are following it closely.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. bmaz‏ @bmaz 8 Dec 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @theminorchords and

          Not so quickly methinks.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. joan_mediator‏ @joan_mediator 8 Dec 2017
          Replying to @bmaz @emptywheel and

          Team bmaz Clarity & Accuracy to best of our ability improves lucidity & accessibility, imho

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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