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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Dec 2017

      Ashley Gorski is now up, arguing for ACLU an EFF. Application of plain view presents serious fourth amendment problems. Searches conducted on relaxed standards of particularity and probable cause. To ensure compliance w/4A should prohibit using non-FI obtained pursuant to FISA.

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Dec 2017

      Gould: Serial killer on the prowl. [Thing that should be noted is a serial killer who DID meet FI standard would fit terrorism standard] Gorsk: Could rely on exigent circumstances to use in limited circumstances.

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Dec 2017

      Piersol: If trial court had info avail so it could decide if plain view applied on case by case. CDT didn't do that. Gorski:En banc said plain view problems when it applies to electronic devices. In this context, clear rules important. Urge more general use restriction.

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Dec 2017

      Gorksi: There must be limits to ensure that 4A not a dead letter in this context. Jacobson--a seizure that may be reasonable at outset may become unreasonable. Piersol: Movement of tech. Gorski: movement of tech important in this kind of situation.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Dec 2017

      Gorski: Computers function as banks and more. As a result, more sensitive for 4A particularity. If all of those files are deemed to be plain view, risk compounded here, bc of FISA, relaxed standards. Altho govt hasnt' described how they found child porn.

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Dec 2017

      Gorski: Govt asserted this would result in rebuilding wall. Not correct. Use restriction on non-FI in no way affects govt's ability to communicate FI.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Dec 2017

      Anthony Lewis for US. "All matter of child porn organized w/in personal files." [Shorter govt: porn porn porn] Defendant can't show any error, let alone error that was plain or clear. FISA uses same standard but as to different facts.

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    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Dec 2017

      Lewis: what FISA must be shown up are foreign power or agent of. On back end are minimization procedures, some imposed by court. Appropriate dissemation. Not like anything in Rule 41 context. [Key issue here: the FISC actually DOES do individualized modification of MPs]

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Dec 2017

      Lewis: Scope issue raised first time on appeal. Why no error, let alone clear. Some of child porn contained names like 137 or 15, just numbers, no way to tell w/o examining them. Folders in which kept did not announce. Wardlaw: Wasn't there a folder?

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    10. Stambovsky v. Ackley, 169 A.D.2d 254 (1991)  ⚖ 💾 ☠ 😈‏ @Esquiring 4 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Do you think Lewis doesn't know how file hashes work, or is he just deliberately ignoring that method?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 4 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Esquiring

      G's forensics guy is here and he thinks they did open every file.

      11:12 AM - 4 Dec 2017
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