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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Benjamin Wittes‏Verified account @benjaminwittes 2 Dec 2017

      Thoughtful @AndrewCMcCarthy piece with which I completely disagree. Would love to swap notes with him on the @lawfareblog podcast.http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454269/michael-flynn-plea-no-breakthrough-russia-investigation …

      70 replies 96 retweets 384 likes
    2. Marty Lederman‏ @marty_lederman 2 Dec 2017
      Replying to @benjaminwittes @AndrewCMcCarthy @lawfareblog

      "Thoughtful," really? Wishful thinking is more like it. Moreover, it's off-message; he must not have gotten the memo from Ty Cobb: Flynn was Obama's guy; Trump barely knew who he was. Hell, he might have even supported Hillary, "lock her up" notwithstanding.

      6 replies 4 retweets 53 likes
    3. Benjamin Wittes‏Verified account @benjaminwittes 2 Dec 2017
      Replying to @marty_lederman @AndrewCMcCarthy @lawfareblog

      You can't blame @AndrewCMcCarthy for what Ty Cobb said. It's a piece with a very different take from mine, and it might turn out to be wishful thinking. But we shouldn't be so locked into our own read that we can't engage with it as thoughtful.

      9 replies 2 retweets 137 likes
    4. Phillip Carter‏Verified account @Carter_PE 2 Dec 2017
      Replying to @benjaminwittes @marty_lederman and

      Agree that McCarthy’s got a plausible optimistic take. I also wonder how #graymail might have factored in here given case facts and all Flynn knew. Will also be interesting to see how Flynn’s myriad potential ethics issues get resolved.

      3 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    5. Andy McCarthy‏Verified account @AndrewCMcCarthy 2 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Carter_PE @benjaminwittes and

      I don’t know. I’m not very optimistic about this at all. I don’t think there’s an espionage conspiracy, but I do think it will go on for a long time, be ugly, embarrassing and (for some) incriminating, and leave precedent none of will like living with.

      8 replies 5 retweets 26 likes
    6. Carrie Johnson‏Verified account @johnson_carrie 2 Dec 2017
      Replying to @AndrewCMcCarthy @Carter_PE and

      This take is more than plausible

      14 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 2 Dec 2017
      Replying to @johnson_carrie @AndrewCMcCarthy and

      My prediction: This is going to resolve quickly and it's going to be worse than folks think and it's not going to take much hoop jumping.

      2 replies 11 retweets 44 likes
    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 2 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @johnson_carrie and

      But I think it's really important to read divergent views like Andy's.

      2 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
    9. Karen Palmer‏ @Karen_Palmer 2 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @johnson_carrie and

      McCarthy’s take is plausible only if you ignore wider context.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 2 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Karen_Palmer @johnson_carrie and

      Or if you ignore that the Flynn plea involved just 2 of Mueller's 16 prosecutors.

      6:49 AM - 2 Dec 2017
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        1. Peter Cazar‏ @peter_cazar 2 Dec 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @Karen_Palmer and

          And that Mueller, who is a thorough investigator by reputation, is said to have postponed Flynn-related GJ testimony around the same time he was weighing the defense's proffer. Why settle for a mild deal without exhausting avenues that might falsify the nothing-burger hypothesis?

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