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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2017

      This post on China's tech giants spying on its citizens would have benefitted from reporters who knew more abt US surveillance.https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-tech-giants-have-a-second-job-helping-the-government-see-everything-1512056284 …

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    2. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 1 Dec 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Are the two domestic spying programs even remotely comparable ?pic.twitter.com/stDgzy0ga9

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Trumpery45

      The USG does track purchases of some things. Similar things have happened here.

      4:48 AM - 1 Dec 2017
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        2. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 1 Dec 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Are the domestic internet spying apparatus China vs US, remotely comparable? in scope, intensity and use by the authorities?

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        3. Eleanor Saittah ah ah‏ @Dymaxion 1 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Trumpery45 @emptywheel

          In scope, broadly speaking yes. Intensity of use is a rapidly changeable political and moral decision.

          1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
        4. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 1 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Dymaxion @emptywheel

          So you think the chinese firewall, clamp downs on anonymous accounts and vpns, warrantless access exercised every moment (which means it is streamlined) is comparable to US domestic spying.

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        5. Eleanor Saittah ah ah‏ @Dymaxion 1 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Trumpery45 @emptywheel

          Effect operations and surveillance are not the same thing. Please be clearer when you ask a question.

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        6. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 1 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Dymaxion @emptywheel

          I am asking @emptywheel not you. The question is simple and clear: are the domestic spying programs, taken as a whole, comparable? Or not.

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        7. Eleanor Saittah ah ah‏ @Dymaxion 1 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Trumpery45 @emptywheel

          You have fun with your bad faith question.

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        8. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 1 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Dymaxion @emptywheel

          “Bad faith question”. 🙄 Look I you can run interference here but @emptywheel should defend her first implicit suggestion they are similar and followup explicit hint, or admit they are actually not comparable at all.

          2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
        9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 1 Dec 2017
          Replying to @Trumpery45 @Dymaxion

          Hi. You can read years of my reporting on this and possibly a post o this article. But Twitter has made it clear they prefer I block people like you rather than call them bad names so I'm going to do that.

          0 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
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