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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

Grand Rapids, MI
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    1. Jake Williams‏ @MalwareJake 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Bing_Chris @RecordedFuture

      Chinese government didn't out their contractor operatives?! Shocked face... 😱😱😱😱

      3 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
    2. Chris Bing‏ @Bing_Chris 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @MalwareJake @RecordedFuture

      Funny how USG continues with the "we didn't say it's state sponsored at least"

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Bing_Chris @MalwareJake @RecordedFuture

      It'll be hysterical when other countries start arresting every employee of BAH as govt hackers bc BAH is a govt hacker entity. Laughs a minute.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Jake Williams‏ @MalwareJake 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @Bing_Chris @RecordedFuture

      Not a laughing matter when you're one of those who will be charged...

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 27 Nov 2017
      Replying to @MalwareJake @Bing_Chris @RecordedFuture

      Yes well we all bear our own legal exposures...

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Nick Carr‏ @ItsReallyNick 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @MalwareJake and

      In those roles, how much commercial espionage and intellectual property theft did you conduct?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Jake Williams‏ @MalwareJake 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @ItsReallyNick @emptywheel and

      You know I can't confirm or deny what I did. But let's talk about norms. If they are following their laws/orders, are we okay charging?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. David J. Bianco‏ @DavidJBianco 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @MalwareJake @Bing_Chris and

      Just because they are following orders from their gov doesn't mean that they are not breaking our laws. We may not be able to put them in jail, but at least we're not tacitly giving them the OK by ignoring them.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @DavidJBianco @MalwareJake and

      Just because Jake was following orders from our gov doesn't mean he wasn't breaking the laws of other countries.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Jake Williams‏ @MalwareJake 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @DavidJBianco and

      Norms. We need international norms.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 28 Nov 2017
      Replying to @MalwareJake @DavidJBianco and

      There are norms (even laws) about what you do when you capture a spy or soldier working in a recognized nation-state role. But not for hackers.

      6:28 AM - 28 Nov 2017
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        1. David J. Bianco‏ @DavidJBianco 28 Nov 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @MalwareJake and

          As it happens, I also agree that we need norms. But I don't agree that criminal charges are somehow off the table. On the spectrum of all possible reactions, this is pretty civilized.

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        1. Jake Williams‏ @MalwareJake 28 Nov 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @DavidJBianco and

          Right. Because until DOJ went off the rails and started charging hackers, nobody really considered hackers spies...

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