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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @burevestnik3 @ifthedevilisix @emptywheel

      nonsense. page's testimony -- which you base your claim on and thus seem to take as credible -- makes it clear he did not meet sechin or had any hand in the deal.

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    2. Petrel‏ @burevestnik3 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @empiricalerror @ifthedevilisix @emptywheel

      It's not at all clear. Of course he denies a quid pro quo, but his shifty (and shifting) responses 'well we may have briefly discussed the Rosneft deal' (hmmm) suggest he may not exactly be telling the whole story.

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    3. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @burevestnik3 @ifthedevilisix @emptywheel

      so first you claimed it's "gained a lot of legitimacy" and now it's just "he may not be telling the whole story." got it. great stuff. 🙄

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    4. Petrel‏ @burevestnik3 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @empiricalerror @ifthedevilisix @emptywheel

      I wrote "gained more legitimacy," which it has, b/c Page had previously denied knowing anything about the Rosneft deal or even who Sechin was. "not exactly telling the whole story" - that's called understatement (suggests more than explicitly stated)

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    5. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @burevestnik3 @ifthedevilisix @emptywheel

      page never denied knowing who sechin was. now you're just making shit up.

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    6. Petrel‏ @burevestnik3 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @empiricalerror @ifthedevilisix @emptywheel

      you're the one making shit up, first by misquoting me to change the meaning, then denying what was reported here (Page said only Sechin he knew was in Rocky IV):https://www.salon.com/2017/04/29/who-in-the-hell-is-carter-page-everything-you-were-afraid-to-ask-about-this-suddenly-important-person/ …

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    7. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @burevestnik3 @ifthedevilisix @emptywheel

      ǝʌɐp Retweeted Petrel

      "Page had previously denied knowing anything about the Rosneft deal *or even who Sechin was*." where did i misquote you?https://twitter.com/bernielosev/status/934197132906479616 …

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      Petrel @burevestnik3
      Replying to @empiricalerror @ifthedevilisix @emptywheel
      I wrote "gained more legitimacy," which it has, b/c Page had previously denied knowing anything about the Rosneft deal or even who Sechin was. "not exactly telling the whole story" - that's called understatement (suggests more than explicitly stated)
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    8. Petrel‏ @burevestnik3 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @empiricalerror @ifthedevilisix @emptywheel

      "gained a lot of legitimacy" [your misquote] has a different meaning than "gained more legitimacy." Steele's claim re Rosneft deal now has "more" credibility but not necessarily "a lot of" credibility. See the difference?

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    9. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @burevestnik3 @ifthedevilisix @emptywheel

      not a deliberate misquote, and i don't think it changes the meaning significantly, but point taken.

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    10. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @empiricalerror @ifthedevilisix @emptywheel

      so back to the carter page quote in the salon piece: (1) it is entirely unsourced, which is a problem. (2) it sounds like page was trying to make a joke (that fell flat). (3) of course, page knew who sechin is, as would anyone remotely familiar with russia.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 24 Nov 2017
      Replying to @empiricalerror @ifthedevilisix

      Also he has said he wished he knew him personally before.

      3:49 PM - 24 Nov 2017
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        1. ǝʌɐp‏ @empiricalerror 24 Nov 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @ifthedevilisix

          yep

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