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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Nov 2017

    emptywheel Retweeted Kenneth P. Vogel

    I bet Vladimir Putin made Tom Brady wear that Make America Great Hat, too.https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/932306822115004423 …

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    Kenneth P. VogelVerified account @kenvogel
    .@Ovi8, who friends say is politically oblivious, is being used by the Kremlin to push back on claims that Putin’s popularity is inflated, US officials say. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/us/politics/alexander-ovechkin-capitals-putin.html …
    10:05 AM - 19 Nov 2017
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      2. Gary Parsons‏ @SF_Gary_ 19 Nov 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        The existence of 62 million Americans who are dumb enough to support Trump w/o foreign meddling doesn't negate the problem of Russia trying to influence 100K more, and whether that was decisive doesn't mean Trump isn't beholden.

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SF_Gary_

        Thanks. Did you mean to reply to a different tweet, one which that sentiment was on point to?

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      4. Gary Parsons‏ @SF_Gary_ 19 Nov 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        The reference to Brady implied, to me, that homegrown support for Trump meant Putin's meddling was innocuous.

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SF_Gary_

        Gotcha. It was meant to be an analogy that noted we let our own stars engage in stupid political support, even for douchebags like Trump, without the same kind of scrutiny. And often for the same reason: because top athletes and top--whatever Trump is--travel the same circles.

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      6. Gary Parsons‏ @SF_Gary_ 19 Nov 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I get your analogy. I also think there are a lot of pundits who downplay Putin's meddling by saying it didn't swing the election. I perceived a connection.

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      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SF_Gary_

        I think there are a lot of commentators who apply standards to RU w/o self-awareness that similar things happen in our own country.

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      8. Gary Parsons‏ @SF_Gary_ 19 Nov 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        We have one of the most dreadful histories of any country in the world. Iranians and Filipinos should hate our guts, for example. But that doesn't mean we should give Putin a pass. It doesn't work that way.

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      9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Nov 2017
        Replying to @SF_Gary_

        Can you link where I said that? But as we assess what happened with this and past elections, ignoring what the GOP did to tamper w/orders of magnitude more money won't do any good.

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