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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 17 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      The trending hashtag list is I imagine the ones pushed by accounts marked as bots. Discounting the list of hashtags means stating they haven’t identified bots.

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Trumpery45

      No, those aren't even IDed as bots.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 17 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      The methodology claims that it includes bots in its three groups:pic.twitter.com/8024vuNkFp

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    4. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 17 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Trumpery45 @emptywheel

      So ALL you are saying is you _believe_ their account selection method to be worthless.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Trumpery45

      No. I'm saying that 1) AS YOU POINTED OUT it's not all bots, at all, it also includes Americans this black box has IDed as paralleling RU propaganda 2) they have so many false positives and refuse to show methodology only idiots take it on faith.

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    6. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 17 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      “Hey All of you talking about al franken are bots” <— that is a clickbait tweet. It just isn’t what the list represents. At all. shrug. Even if you think they are bad at their job.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Trumpery45

      McKew has ZERO evidence -- none!! -- that "Russian bots" are all over Franken. ZERO. Which is what my tweet responded to.

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    8. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 17 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Then say that, don’t add further sensationalism and divisiveness. Things are toxic enough already.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Trumpery45

      Nah, I'm happy to make it clear precisely how divisive and toxic her claim is. Maybe you should go lecture her on divisiveness?

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    10. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 17 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      A building funded by putin is filled with people working in shifts to push lies on social media to encourage people to hate each other. That’s an issue worth chasing, imperfectly identified or not.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Trumpery45

      Doing so by ENGAGING IN DISINFORMATION as McKew did is not the way to defeat it.

      4:13 PM - 17 Nov 2017
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        2. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 17 Nov 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Yes It appears to be your opinion, that it’s willful DISinformation rather than just inaccurate/imperfect, please link me to your evidence that it is intended to be divisive disinformation.

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        3. runtodaylight‏ @runtodaylight 17 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Trumpery45 @emptywheel

          45, you agreed it's "divisive." It's your "opinion" too. Suddenly, you want a link that it's "intended" as opposed to "inaccurate/imperfect?" Why didn't that matter earlier? Does your hair splitting warrant the passion you invest in it?

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        4. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 17 Nov 2017
          Replying to @runtodaylight @emptywheel

          The accusation is “engaging in disinformation”!! Where is the evidence that this tag list is _willful deceit_ and not merely an imperfect picture of suspected bot activity?pic.twitter.com/DsqZe3f1vw

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        5. runtodaylight‏ @runtodaylight 17 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Trumpery45 @emptywheel

          45, when you want to be taken seriously, don't avoid questions by spamming TL's with opinions you already provided. I already knew you changed horses in mid-stream. You're demanding ew respond. Why can't you? Have you contributed to ew's site? https://www.emptywheel.net/support/  If not, why

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        6. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 17 Nov 2017
          Replying to @runtodaylight @emptywheel

          I am not changing horses. My first tweet is to question why the taglist was attacked by @emptywheel with hyperbole. Turns out the reason for this is they think it is *disinformation*. Is it, or not?

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        7. runtodaylight‏ @runtodaylight 17 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Trumpery45 @emptywheel

          You did. It's in your TL, along with the "hyperbole." Guess that's a "no" on donating. Why won't you support ew's work?

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        8. Justin‏ @Trumpery45 17 Nov 2017
          Replying to @runtodaylight

          You aren’t being clear at all, but the irony of being accused of changing horses in midstream, by a new and unknown horse, IS clear. I would rather donate to @conspirator0 or @TrickFreee or other bot tracking efforts.

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        9. runtodaylight‏ @runtodaylight 17 Nov 2017
          Replying to @Trumpery45 @conspirator0 @TrickFreee

          At least you didn't deny the hyperbole. If you thought I wasn't "being clear," why didn't you mention that in your prior tweet? How much have you donated to @conspirator0 and @TrickFreee in 2017?

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