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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Nov 2017

      [Gets up, sees @ggreenwald & all his haters are engaged in a massive fight tagging me, where everyone is using 280. Crawls back to bed.]

      14 replies 18 retweets 408 likes
    2. Um Yeah....‏ @msut777 14 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

      You realize Glenn has zero credibility on the Russia/Trump stuff right?

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Nov 2017
      Replying to @msut777 @ggreenwald

      I realize he has taken skepticism way beyond where the evidence supports. I also realize many Democrats have done the same on the other side.

      1 reply 1 retweet 23 likes
    4. Um Yeah....‏ @msut777 14 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

      Glenn is "skeptic" the way climate change or holocaust deniers are. Not sure what Democrats you are referring to.

      3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Nov 2017
      Replying to @msut777 @ggreenwald

      Maybe the ones who believe the dossier has proven true -- that is, most of them? Maybe the ones who forget all evidentiary standards?

      3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    6. Um Yeah....‏ @msut777 14 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

      Did you read the carter page testimony? He confirmed parts of it. See also the Mueller investigation. I can see why Michael Tracey quoted your work also.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Nov 2017
      Replying to @msut777 @ggreenwald

      Oh goodie! Someone who proves my point. Please find me the details that Page's testimony "proves," aside from the detail that was otherwise known, that he went to Moscow. And don't link Bertrand bc that was a shit show.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    8. Um Yeah....‏ @msut777 14 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

      A) Did you or did you not read his testimony (I did) B) Why do you get to ask for sources but declare some off limits arbitrarily?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Nov 2017
      Replying to @msut777 @ggreenwald

      Bertrand is not a "source." She is someone reporting on a "source," and on issues relating to the Steele dossier, an unreliable one.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. Um Yeah....‏ @msut777 14 Nov 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

      Why do you think it matters what you do or do not declare a "source"? This isn't just the Steele dossier per se but Page's testimony.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Nov 2017
      Replying to @msut777 @ggreenwald

      No. It is about whether the Page testimony MATCHES the Steele dossier. It doesn't. On the most important issues (WHO he met w/in RU, whether he got Rosneft deal), it conflicts with it.

      5:30 AM - 14 Nov 2017
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        2. Um Yeah....‏ @msut777 14 Nov 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

          I read the Page testimony. It does, you just don't "think" it matters he was in russia met some poobahs and discussed things that happened to be in the dossier.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Nov 2017
          Replying to @msut777 @ggreenwald

          Again, WHAT matches the dossier? Have you even read the dossier?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Um Yeah....‏ @msut777 14 Nov 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

          Yes I read it. Also, are you moving the goalposts when you mention if Page "got the deal or not".

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Nov 2017
          Replying to @msut777 @ggreenwald

          No. I'm asking that the allegations in the dossier match what we know to have happened. You are treating suggesting non-like things can be treated as like. Again, what you accuse Glenn of doing.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Um Yeah....‏ @msut777 14 Nov 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

          Just to be clear. Page goes to Russia, meets with Poobahs and talks turkey with them. You dont think it matters because A) the deal may not have been sealed B) one source wrote about the dossier that you didnt like. Circular reasoning.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Nov 2017
          Replying to @msut777 @ggreenwald

          LOL. Goodbye. It's clear you are precisely the problem you're complaining about.

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        8. Um Yeah....‏ @msut777 14 Nov 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald

          Have fun with your false equivalency workshop.

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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