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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Bobby Chesney‏Verified account @BobbyChesney 8 Nov 2017

      Bobby Chesney Retweeted

      Yes there is blowback *risk* in situations like Playpen, but by no means certain or even likely. Benefits to be had will often outweigh that risk, as in this case. https://twitter.com/josephfcox/status/928216696845930496 …

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    2. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 8 Nov 2017
      Replying to @BobbyChesney @riskybusiness

      Plus, DOJ has comity procedures in place, including for notification of unwitting violations. Not an unprecedented issue or one without a solution.

      1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
    3. daveaitel‏ @daveaitel 8 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @BobbyChesney @riskybusiness

      Also we are totally cool with China and Russia doing same.

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    4. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 8 Nov 2017
      Replying to @daveaitel @BobbyChesney @riskybusiness

      If you had common agreement on threshold conditions, nature of LE activity, and underlying offense, then probably yes.

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    5. daveaitel‏ @daveaitel 8 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @BobbyChesney @riskybusiness

      I'm with you but we have none of those things ! :)

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    6. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 8 Nov 2017
      Replying to @daveaitel @BobbyChesney @riskybusiness

      Not none, especially as related to Playpen. We cooperate with Russia on similar ops through the Interpol/Europol Task Force.

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    7. Susan Hennessey‏Verified account @Susan_Hennessey 8 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @daveaitel and

      I take your point on the potentially fraught path here. Just pushing back on assumption that this is per se impermissible action or that there aren't historical examples of navigating unknown sovereignty issues.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. daveaitel‏ @daveaitel 8 Nov 2017
      Replying to @Susan_Hennessey @BobbyChesney @riskybusiness

      It worries me, for example, that we try to delimit a "NIT" as a thing. Sort of as if we want to state a policy or norm line without real basis in fact.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Nov 2017
      Replying to @daveaitel @Susan_Hennessey and

      What do you mean?

      2:01 PM - 8 Nov 2017
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