Do think there is difference bt ICIJ & WL. Not clear there is between ICIJ & Intercept. But people should have some basis for distinguishing
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Targeting/leaking of someone’s personal emails by a government is entirely different than Panama papers, but sure, keep up your narrative.
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In my next tweet I make it clear I was comparing ICIJ and Snowden journalism. Also, where did PP come from?
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Sorry paradise papers. And with your clarification, makes more sense. I lean Dem and had no problem with Snowden leaks.
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Yeah, my ultimate goal is to note that we need a real discussion abt what we expect journos to do w/big dumps from known & unknown sources.
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I'm happy abt the PP leaks, but find it remarkable that it's the 3rd in a row of dubious provenance and no one finds that curious.
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@OCCRP have been doing other leaks exposing money laundering in former stans/Eastern Europe of similar concept.
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Leaks are not the same as hacks because done by a whistleblower.
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1) This tweet was a followup describing my point. https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/927543201333997571 … 2) Do you know how ICIJ got the PP docs?
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Also, how do you feel abt Bradley Foundation hack and leak?https://projects.jsonline.com/news/2017/5/5/hacked-records-show-bradley-foundation-taking-wisconsin-model-national.html …
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I know less about this than I should, but I am sure I support criminal prosecution. Hacking is illegal.
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I've got mixed feelings. Not about the hacking (which is illegal) but about using the materials. Are we "by any means necessary"?
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I actually don't know what answer is--it's really, really complicated. But I do think people need to be more honest abt the leaks they love
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I'm concerned about the veracity of any "leaked" doc, (they can be verified by the source.) What if these leaks are "the only means"?
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Except, Wilbur Ross admitted to having off shore accounts today.
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Not disputing, at all, value of Paradise Papers. I'm saying that we all should understand better how journos should deal w/big dumps.
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Especially since provenance of PP is even more questionable than Snowden's.
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Care to reconsider this ridiculous straw man?
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Care to explain why it is one? Thus far everyone who has tried has either betrayed ignorance or supported my point.
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Sure. Let’s start with the “most Dems swore” generalization. Then let’s jump to “all leaks” from “Russian-hacked docs to influence election”
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Oops. You see, the comparison is Snowden docs to ICIJ (with the latter's unknown provenance). Try again.
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