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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Kim Zetter‏Verified account @KimZetter 25 Oct 2017

      Kim Zetter Retweeted emptywheel

      Nice catch. It would indeed prevent FISA Court from secretly imposing a CALEA-like order on companies to force them to assisthttps://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/922850233180180481 …

      Kim Zetter added,

      emptywheel @emptywheel
      I'm a good reader of breadcrumbs Ron Wyden leaves. I think he just told us govt forced back door onto Apple w/FISA. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/10/24/ron-wyden-is-worried-the-government-will-use-fisa-process-to-force-secret-technical-changes/ …
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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Oct 2017
      Replying to @KimZetter

      Yup. But be careful abt use of word CALEA, bc it would be used precisely where CALEA didn't obligate providers, which is why problematic

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    3. Steven Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 25 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @KimZetter

      That text says "electronic communication service provider", which could apply to some iCloud services but not, I think, devices.

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Oct 2017
      Replying to @SteveBellovin @KimZetter

      Interesting point, and one I hope Apple's lawyers raised. ;p

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @SteveBellovin @KimZetter

      Along w/deciding how to describe architectural content, we have also need to find new words for these since USAF report used "phone company"

      6:59 AM - 25 Oct 2017
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        1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @SteveBellovin @KimZetter

          Cause I'm pretty sure Bob Litt had the skill to point out that Apple is, by any definition, a company that makes phones.

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        1. Steven Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 25 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @KimZetter

          I don't know which USAF report you mean, but to me "phone company" is a telco, not a device manufacturer.

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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 25 Oct 2017
          Replying to @SteveBellovin @KimZetter

          HJC bill report. "Phone company" is not a legally meaningful term. Which is why it should never be used in association w/legislation.

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        3. Steven Bellovin‏Verified account @SteveBellovin 25 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @KimZetter

          Agreed.

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