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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      4/ The match is never perfect, but when combined with other data, can be suggestive.

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

      Same on VPNs or more?

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    3. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      Even more so on VPNs. Andrea will know more, but Tor distributes traffic across exit nodes, making it harder. VPNs don't.

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

      Is targeting VPNs worth more than metadata?

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    5. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      I'm not sure I understand the question. All targeting VPNs gets you is metadata.

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    6. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      Imagine i download a 1-gigabyte file via VPN from a terrorist website. They want metadata (when this happened, how much data was transfered)

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

      OK, we agree. But there must be SOME content they're getting via Tor. That explains their great dark market successes of late?

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    8. Andreⓐ‏ @puellavulnerata 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ErrataRob

      Those have, *to public appearance*, been endpoint attacks. That doesn't rule out parallel construction to conceal the existence of a...

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    9. Andreⓐ‏ @puellavulnerata 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @puellavulnerata @emptywheel @ErrataRob

      ...deanon attack, but it doesn't really support it either.

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    10. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @puellavulnerata @ErrataRob

      No. But I'm not the tech expert. I've now said, yes, they are using 702 v Tor in US, under guise of FII. How would they use it?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata @ErrataRob

      And where is the "upstream" collection point?

      6:57 PM - 23 Oct 2017
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        1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata @ErrataRob

          Also what do they get from VPNs and any Tor exit notes that want to play along as PRISM providers, but that's another issue.

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        1. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

          Tor entry/exit nodes are maintained by independent people all over the world, so there's not "upstream" location.

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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

          Why not their IP?

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        3. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

          There's no one place, or even thousands of places, the NSA can tap in to see all Internet traffic.

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

          Sure but there aren't that many Tor exit nodes.

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        5. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

          About 6500 of them. That's a lot, even for the NSA. http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ 

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

          How many in US tho?

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