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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

      And can you talk me through how NSA is doing it, then? Assume they're taking every node that FBI or a friendly doesn't run.

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    2. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      1/ Well, @puellavulnerata would have a lot of insights I don't have, but I'll give the stuff I know about.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      2/ The bulk of their monitoring is just "connection" metadata: traffic from an exit node going to an IP address.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      3/ They'll also have connection records going into an entrance node. They can then match up entrance with exit records.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

      Note they've also redefined DRAS (from PRTT) to include stuff further down the packet.

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    6. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      Yes, email, HTTP, and SSL headers are almost certainly covered by DRAS. It's not an unreasonable view.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

      No no no. FISC expanded def of DRAS to include non-content content. HJC bill codifies that, SSCI is silent but beyond caring.

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    8. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      I'm not sure what you are saying "no" to. An HTTP header is content as far lower layers care, but DRAS as far as upper layers.

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    9. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      In other words, HTTP URLs and email addresses (in email headers) are "dialing, routing, or signaling" information, ...

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    10. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      ...despite being "content" as far as the Internet routers care.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

      We agree then. This is not approved by law, but since 2012, they've been collecting this as content so ...

      6:49 PM - 23 Oct 2017
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