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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017

      If SSCI 702 bill goes forward, it will be enabling moment to turn our IC into something far worse than Stasi. I don't say that lightly.

      12 replies 156 retweets 155 likes
    2. Andreⓐ‏ @puellavulnerata 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      /me reads your post fuuuuck...

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @puellavulnerata

      Please share it broadly. As I said, I'm NOT just speculating (though I hope some journos work to confirm it on their own).

      1 reply 2 retweets 2 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      TBF this has been in place since 2014. But the RU hack JAR this year and this bill would blow it up.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      It basically kills Tor and (probably, tho to a lesser degree) VPN as means to organize privately.

      1 reply 3 retweets 5 likes
    6. Andreⓐ‏ @puellavulnerata 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      well, they don't have effective deanon attacks for Tor as far as public data goes

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @puellavulnerata

      I think they're bulk collecting at exit nodes. This the inclusion of so many in the DNC hack JAR. They're all RU facilities now!!!!

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

      I've done bulk collection at Tor exits. While sometimes you can get lucky, it's not a big privacy invasion.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

      What do you do with it then?

      6:29 PM - 23 Oct 2017
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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

          And can you talk me through how NSA is doing it, then? Assume they're taking every node that FBI or a friendly doesn't run.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

          1/ Well, @puellavulnerata would have a lot of insights I don't have, but I'll give the stuff I know about.

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        4. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @ErrataRob @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

          2/ The bulk of their monitoring is just "connection" metadata: traffic from an exit node going to an IP address.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @ErrataRob @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

          3/ They'll also have connection records going into an entrance node. They can then match up entrance with exit records.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

          Note they've also redefined DRAS (from PRTT) to include stuff further down the packet.

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        7. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

          Yes, email, HTTP, and SSL headers are almost certainly covered by DRAS. It's not an unreasonable view.

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        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @ErrataRob @puellavulnerata

          No no no. FISC expanded def of DRAS to include non-content content. HJC bill codifies that, SSCI is silent but beyond caring.

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        9. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 23 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @puellavulnerata

          I'm not sure what you are saying "no" to. An HTTP header is content as far lower layers care, but DRAS as far as upper layers.

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