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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Oct 2017

    emptywheel Retweeted Donald J. Trump

    Seeing a lot of REALLY STUPID TAKES on this. Multiple outlets reported FBI at least considered paying Steele. Trump did not make it up.https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/920981920787386368 …

    emptywheel added,

    Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump
    Workers of firm involved with the discredited and Fake Dossier take the 5th. Who paid for it, Russia, the FBI or the Dems (or all)?
    7:06 AM - 19 Oct 2017
    • 10 Retweets
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    • BlackTowerRadio drone department Lt.Cmdr Dr.Tw1t3r_J3$u$, PI, DDS, Esq the III dungeon meister H Bear Won Jin Armyndy Mako Progressives Don't Let Their Friends Be Democrats
    12 replies 10 retweets 19 likes
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      2. RS22‏ @OllieWH22 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        WaPo reported that FBI considered paying Steele in Oct '16 for further work -- not for dossier itself.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @OllieWH22

        HELLOOOO. Please stop commenting if you don't realize that most inflammatory report was after that. Thanks.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. RS22‏ @OllieWH22 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        What report was that?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @OllieWH22

        I'm done. The dossier is public. So is this fact.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. RS22‏ @OllieWH22 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I've searched internet, only thing I can find is WaPo article. Genuinely asking. Not sure why you're so defensive about this.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @OllieWH22

        Because you started by telling me I was wrong and that has a way of making people cranky.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. RS22‏ @OllieWH22 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I started saying that WaPo reported FBI considered paying Steele after dossier. Separately, I think you're wrong on the Russia part.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @OllieWH22

        I don't think RU paid for the dossier. But I think Trump raises a fair concern abt Fusion taking $ fr RU at time it is doing oppo on him.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. JxWoods‏ @iamJxWoods 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        The real issue isn't the facts but the narrative. Regardless of whether FBI paid or not it is patently false that they or dossier is fake.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @iamJxWoods

        Actually the dossier is problematic. Liberals who cling to it are stupid and counterproductive.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel @iamJxWoods

        And I'm sorry: it would never be defensible for the FBI to pay for something labeled as oppo research on a candidate.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. JxWoods‏ @iamJxWoods 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        It wasn't offered to the FBI as oppo research as I've seen reported. I thought Steele gave it to FBI because of it's implications

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @iamJxWoods

        Which is different from FBI paying for it (I suspect they paid for travel, and changed mind abt paying when Steele went public).

        3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. JxWoods‏ @iamJxWoods 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Which diverts attn from the fact that he is compromised, dossier has evidence of that, and Russia has leverage over him. Pee tape included.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @iamJxWoods

        That's actually MORE true if you flush the dossier and look at the real evidence in front of you.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. JxWoods‏ @iamJxWoods 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Agreed. The dossier SUPPORTS the reality that he is compromised, right?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Nate the K‏ @NatetheK 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Saying this in good faith, your tweet is confusing. Not being argumentative, what are the REALLY STUPID TAKES? That Trump isn't lying?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @NatetheK

        Yes. He's not lying and frankly he has a good point.

        3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Nate the K‏ @NatetheK 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Thanks for the clarification.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @NatetheK

        Everything he alleges in that tweet has at least been suggested by multiple reports.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. RS22‏ @OllieWH22 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel @NatetheK

        What reports suggest that Russia paid for the dossier?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @OllieWH22 @NatetheK

        None. Except that Ahkmetshin was doing work for Fusion at the same time, which means firm was taking $$ fr Veselnitskaya.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. RS22‏ @OllieWH22 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel @NatetheK

        So you are defending his fabrication of the notion that Russia paid based on fact that Russia may have also been indirect client of GPS?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 19 Oct 2017
        Replying to @OllieWH22 @NatetheK

        I think there are real Qs about the role of Ahkmetshin. If you think it was problematic to meet with him, then his tie to Fusion problematic

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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