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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @StevenLHall1

      702 by definition involves domestic provider assistance, by definition originate in US, usu in CA.

      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @StevenLHall1

      To answer the tweet you deleted, the cite is 1881a(g)(2)(A)(vi).https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1881a …

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    3. Steven L. Hall‏ @StevenLHall1 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Did not delete anything! Who ARE you? ...but thanks for the link.

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @StevenLHall1

      Sorry, lost the tweet in flood then. As you can see, 702 by definition must require assistance of domestic provider. Thus my point.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Allen, This is Bad News‏ @allen_i 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @StevenLHall1

      I don’t understand why Seasions’ comment is inconsistent based on your quote. Data originated overseas, flows thru US infrastructure. Right?

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @allen_i @StevenLHall1

      Sometimes a foreigner originates a comm. Sometimes an American does.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Steven L. Hall‏ @StevenLHall1 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @allen_i

      I think you are mistaken, but this may be one of those things too complex for 140 chars. Happy to discuss in DM if you'd like.

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    8. Steven L. Hall‏ @StevenLHall1 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @StevenLHall1 @emptywheel @allen_i

      BTW here's the best article I've been able to find on the current status of 702. Good for non-lawyers like me.http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/13/congress-wants-to-tie-the-intelligence-communitys-hands-for-no-reason/?utm_content=buffer2f86b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer …

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @StevenLHall1 @allen_i

      Here is my response to just one badly inaccurate part of it. There are other problems with it. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/10/15/ben-wittes-and-susan-hennessey-endorse-judicial-lawbreaking/ …

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    10. Steven L. Hall‏ @StevenLHall1 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @allen_i

      I now better understand where ur coming from. I do disagree with you, having seen how 702 works. The am. cur. argument concerns me least.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Oct 2017
      Replying to @StevenLHall1 @allen_i

      Right: the attack on the amicus change is wrong-headed IMO. It seems like a no-brainer, so reeks of bad faith, esp w/ad hom attacks.

      10:24 AM - 18 Oct 2017
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        1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @StevenLHall1 @allen_i

          I absolutely agree there is policy debate abt how we define FII, what protections are feasible for collected data. But we're not having that

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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 18 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @StevenLHall1 @allen_i

          Here's a post on why I think reformers and the IC are talking past each other on those more substantive issues. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/10/18/christopher-wray-and-the-myth-created-by-parallel-construction/ …

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