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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 16 Oct 2017

      This case from @emptywheel is pretty strong that the government is doing parallel construction https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/10/16/evidence-the-us-government-used-section-702-against-keith-gartenlaubs-parents-in-law/ …

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    2. Robᵉʳᵗ Graham X🅂 Max‏ @ErrataRob 16 Oct 2017

      Lawyers on the government side keep assuring me that parallel construction is illegal and not done.

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 16 Oct 2017
      Replying to @ErrataRob

      Incidentally, Bob Litt used to say parallel construction was totally legal. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4537725/parallel-construction …

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    4. Sarah St.Vincent‏ @SarahStV_HRW 17 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ErrataRob

      @hrw has been researching parallel construction for 18 months. My conclusion is that it happens routinely & even daily cc @Robyn_Greene /1

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    5. Sarah St.Vincent‏ @SarahStV_HRW 17 Oct 2017
      Replying to @SarahStV_HRW @emptywheel and

      ... Although the government doesn't always use it to conceal intelligence sources or methods. /2

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Oct 2017
      Replying to @SarahStV_HRW @ErrataRob and

      Yes, I know. But it will always be used to hide 12333 and going forward will always be used to avoid notice on 702.

      5:44 AM - 17 Oct 2017
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        2. Sarah St.Vincent‏ @SarahStV_HRW 17 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @ErrataRob and

          I agree with you on 12333 and suspect you're right abt 702 as well. Congress shd include a stronger FISA notice req. in the 702 reform bills

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Oct 2017
          Replying to @SarahStV_HRW @ErrataRob and

          Yup. There was effort to make that happen. It would be a significant improvement on the bill and prolly necessary for real constitutionality

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        4. Sarah St.Vincent‏ @SarahStV_HRW 17 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @ErrataRob and

          100% agreed, and this is something for which @hrw is actively pushing. I'd say the European Comm'n is also very aware of the notice problem.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 17 Oct 2017
          Replying to @SarahStV_HRW @ErrataRob and

          Yeah, hoping to get a post done on the provisions written for Europe. They may have more success than we do at reform.

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