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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Oct 2017

      Mattis: "it is a violation of our oath to divulge, in any fashion, non-public DoD info, classified or unclassified"https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2017/10/05/mattis-warns-dod-against-leaks-in-new-memo/#.WduhcT5NfBE.twitter …

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Oct 2017

      What oath is that, Mattis? Surely you're not conflating an NDA w/oath to Constitution again, are you? Bc those are not the same.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Oct 2017

      Also, where in ANY oath is it a violation to share "non-public" unclassified info?

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        2. Jake Williams‏ @MalwareJake 9 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I had someone claim that if I saw it at DoD it was unclassified//FOUO at a minimum. I asked "the cafeteria menu?" They said yes.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Oct 2017
          Replying to @MalwareJake

          Remember the govt claims they can avoid Merit Review for the people running the local exchanges bc they might reveal Gatorade sales levels.

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        4. Jake Williams‏ @MalwareJake 9 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Yep. The level of paranoia is out of control.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 9 Oct 2017
          Replying to @MalwareJake

          Tho to be fair prolly a good idea for NSA to keep its cafeteria menus classified bc per @Susan_Hennessey, CIA's cafeteria is much better.

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        6. Jake Williams‏ @MalwareJake 9 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @Susan_Hennessey

          I can neither confirm nor deny

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        1. Judy‏ @Kissthiz 9 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          If churches do it in their own gov, they are proving themselves false.

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        1. Judy‏ @Kissthiz 9 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Have you ever looked up 'oath' in the Bible? Internet makes it easy.

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        1. Stephen Rochester‏ @SBRochester 9 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          We believe that information generated with public funds should be shared so much so that Congress passed FOIA to make sure it happens

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        2. Robert Caruso‏Verified account @robertcaruso 9 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          This was a lawyered memo, likely with input from the General Counsel, which considers Controlled Unclassified Information and SBU exempt.

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        3. Robert Caruso‏Verified account @robertcaruso 9 Oct 2017
          Replying to @robertcaruso @emptywheel

          You and I do not have to agree (CUI/SBU is not Confidential) but that is their internal policy and interpretation of Clapper-era guidelines.

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        1. muddletoes‏ @muddletoes 9 Oct 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          The argument would presumably be that it was a violation of the "well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office" clause. Since this is a common civic clause, there's probably a fair body of law defining it, and a definitive answer as to whether leaking violates it.

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