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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 7 Oct 2017

      Question for those who think Carpenter should win: What kinds of surveillance do you think should clearly *not* trigger the 4th Amendment?

      20 replies 5 retweets 16 likes
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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 Oct 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr

      We do this every time. Volume. Retention of multiple streams of data.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 7 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Last we discussed on this, you were annoyed with me that I wasn't listening to your answers; when I asked you for your specific rules, you

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 Oct 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr

      I gave you rules. These same ones. Let's convene a conference where you can't use 140 to caricature real discussion.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 7 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I've listed a bunch of specific questions and for asked for your answers. You answered zero of them.

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    6. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 7 Oct 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr @emptywheel

      "Volume. Retention of multiple streams of data." is not a rule, at least one that I know how to apply.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 Oct 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr

      Neither was probable cause when it started either. What I and other people you caricature are proposing is a means of moving forward.

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    8. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 7 Oct 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      It's been five years since I published that article & questions. Not like I'm springing them on people all of a sudden.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 Oct 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr

      Just bc you haven't been in these particular discussions (which, as I've said, I had at length during USAF) doesn't mean they didn't happen.

      7:20 PM - 7 Oct 2017
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