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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Sep 2017

    Lawyer peeps: If a MoC makes a trip which is aides say is not govt business, does speech and debate apply? https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-congressman-sought-trump-deal-on-wikileaks-russia-1505509918 …pic.twitter.com/0dBt6nMVOh

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      2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Sep 2017

        You'd think WSJ could fit in--either here or where Pompeo dubbed WL a hostile non-state intel svc--that Pompeo also cheered WL?pic.twitter.com/vCPRrxtKVy

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Sep 2017

        This is one of only new bits abt article (aside fr Kelly call): Rohrabacher claims Assange's proof would go on a thumb drive.pic.twitter.com/bAq2l5wEjg

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      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Sep 2017

        Wonder how His Irrationalness feels about his CoS refusing "evidence" that would end his RU woes?

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Sep 2017

        Hey DNC skeptics?!?! You know how you harp on Assange releasing tool that helps fake metadata? All he has is ... metadata on a thumb drive.

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      2. Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆‏ @KDbyProxy 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        T'is a hair-splitting area. A trip not paid for w/ gov't funds can still be official for some purposes. Also, which passport did he use? 1/

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @KDbyProxy

        I just knew you'd like this question.

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      4. Ira Goldman  🦆 🦆 🦆‏ @KDbyProxy 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Though tbh, I'm rusty of this. At least it wasn't about the gift rules b/c ¯\_(?)_/¯… too many changes since I had to know them.

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      1. Laura Rozen‏ @lrozen 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        who paid for it?

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      1. MJR jnr‏ @onetruebritt 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        And here goes the Seth Rich nutters...

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      1. Jackhammer3853‏ @jackhammer3853 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @DanaRohrbacher Is In Wt The Russian Govern.! Be

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      1. Good Germans‏ @bayofarizona 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Did Sessions invoke this clause regarding his talks with the Russian ambassador? Same as when Tulsi Gabbard visited Syria

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      1. ((( IL Steve )))‏ @21law 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        what @AGLLegal said

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      2. Andrew Levchuk‏ @AGLLegal 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Complicated - depends on whether the trip and his activities could be considered a "legislative act" - see US v Brewster, 408 U.S. 501.

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      3. Andrew Levchuk‏ @AGLLegal 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @AGLLegal @emptywheel

        Legislative acts not limited to speech/debate in Congress, but Clause limited to act which was "clearly a part of the legislative process"

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      4. Andrew Levchuk‏ @AGLLegal 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @AGLLegal @emptywheel

        Rohrabacher would claim that unofficial investigations/inquiries by single MoC are protected. But if he received quid pro quo, he's cooked.

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      2. Something Witty‏ @Pure_tWit 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Glancing briefly at the relevant law, official vs. unofficial is irrelevant. Instead it matters if act was "legislative in nature."

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      3. Something Witty‏ @Pure_tWit 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @Pure_tWit @emptywheel

        Also, criminal act per se not legislative. Makes sense, as S&D clause is protection from executive/judicial branches, leg writes crim laws.

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      4. Something Witty‏ @Pure_tWit 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @Pure_tWit @emptywheel

        As always, CRS reports are a good place to start research: https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42648.pdf …

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      1. Janie Thelin‏ @Moochmom 15 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        @Indivisible_F @IndivisibleCA48

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