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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @PeterLucier @Susan_Hennessey

      It also didn't have the same benefits of informing citizens.

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    2. Nate Christiansen‏ @Christn077 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @PeterLucier @Susan_Hennessey

      Chelsea's leak was an act of revenge, not done to inform. If it were the latter, she would have made some effort to curate the documents.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Christn077 @PeterLucier @Susan_Hennessey

      You might want to familiarize yourself with her testimony before you make claims that contradict it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Nate Christiansen‏ @Christn077 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @PeterLucier @Susan_Hennessey

      She speaks about how her motive was to leak SigACT docs that revealed the "reality" of Iraq, specifically the death and destruction.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Nate Christiansen‏ @Christn077 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Christn077 @emptywheel and

      But then she released thousands of unrelated diplomatic communications, and can only justify her interest in them so far as "curiosity."

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    6. Nate Christiansen‏ @Christn077 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Christn077 @emptywheel and

      And further makes a historically illiterate comparison between confidential diplomatic communications and secret defense pacts.

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    7. Nate Christiansen‏ @Christn077 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Christn077 @emptywheel and

      Which ultimately reveals that her motive was not specific to a particular injustice which she hoped to correct.

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    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Christn077 @PeterLucier @Susan_Hennessey

      If she had wanted revenge why did she specifically avoid anything from JWICs?

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @Christn077 and

      & while you're apparently aware of more details than let on, you're actually making the case FOR curation, albeit curation you disagree with

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    10. Nate Christiansen‏ @Christn077 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @PeterLucier @Susan_Hennessey

      I see your point. I was dismissing what I saw as incoherent curation as an absence entirely. Also, revenge was wrong. Naivety fits better.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Sep 2017
      Replying to @Christn077 @PeterLucier @Susan_Hennessey

      I could buy that.

      12:23 PM - 14 Sep 2017
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        2. Nate Christiansen‏ @Christn077 14 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @PeterLucier @Susan_Hennessey

          I don't think she is evil. I also don't think that being taken advantage of by a foreign intelligence service is admirable.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 14 Sep 2017
          Replying to @Christn077 @PeterLucier @Susan_Hennessey

          I don't think she was. Even if WL is now considered a non-state intel service that largely arose in response to response to Manning leaks.

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        4. Nate Christiansen‏ @Christn077 14 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @PeterLucier @Susan_Hennessey

          Yup. I've been schooled. I now see that her leak came eight months before Wikileaks declined to publish materials on the Russian gov.

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