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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 13 Sep 2017

    emptywheel Retweeted POLITICO

    It has been so long since Dems tried to move Overton left Politico doesn't understand it.https://twitter.com/politico/status/907897664435621889 …

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    POLITICOVerified account @politico
    Sanders' single-payer push splits Democrats http://politi.co/2h3x7kS  via @eschor pic.twitter.com/sViy447XND
    5:04 AM - 13 Sep 2017
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      2. Mike Gianella‏ @MikeGianella 13 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        when was the last time?

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 13 Sep 2017
        Replying to @MikeGianella

        I think Dems tried to move POLICY left when they had a supermajority. But all while carefully keeping Overtun in safe centrist place.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      4. Mike Gianella‏ @MikeGianella 13 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        was it Clinton/healthcare in 1993-1994?

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 13 Sep 2017
        Replying to @MikeGianella

        Overton? Maybe. But the time to move Overton is when you don't have power, no?

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      6. Mike Gianella‏ @MikeGianella 13 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        yes, good point. 2005/2006 perhaps, though that was mostly Dems capitalizing on GOP unforced errors

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      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 13 Sep 2017
        Replying to @MikeGianella

        They should do it on something like infrastructure (which Trump used successfully). Actual investment.

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      8. Mike Gianella‏ @MikeGianella 13 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I agree, though there's probably some value in energizing the base even if they can't get a win

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      9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 13 Sep 2017
        Replying to @MikeGianella

        If they just got CBO scores for this it would undercut a lot of what GOP trying to do. Even Medicare buy-in solves tons of problems.

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      1. Steven Scott‏ @scottstev 13 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Caucus split from "Hells yeah!" all the way to "something we should look at"

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      1. Keith White‏ @keethers 13 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel @LOLGOP

        Not only Politico, but even some liberals are predicting it won't make it out of committee. Entirely missing the point.

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      1. Villago Delenda Est‏ @SioBabble 13 Sep 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Worthless Villager idiots.

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      1. I.F. Thunder‏ @IFThunder 13 Sep 2017
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        Politico was founded to help prevent that, wasn't it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Allbritton …

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      1. Jeff Royce ☭ 🌹  🇵🇸  🚩‏ @AtlasRoyce 13 Sep 2017
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        I think it was before Overton was born. Certainly before Politico was founded.

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