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    1. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 6 Sep 2017

      The thing that concerns me about the @briankrebs piece is not that it proves/disproves MWT's involvement in criminal activity 1/

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    2. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 6 Sep 2017

      But rather, that I find it very hard to imagine an ordinary jury will be able to distinguish the smoke from real fire. 2/

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    3. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 6 Sep 2017

      It's possible MWT did what he's accused of. It's also possible he didn't cross the line, and someone burned him to reduce their sentence. 3/

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    4. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 6 Sep 2017

      What the Krebs piece illustrates is that it's unlikely he'll really get a fair trial on the merits. 4/4

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Sep 2017
      Replying to @matthew_d_green @briankrebs

      We haven't gotten into discovery yet, but stuff Krebs hits on would only come in via Rule 404, if even then.

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        2. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @briankrebs

          What Krebs showed was that MWT did play in that community. Which means *something* will almost certainly come in.

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        3. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @matthew_d_green @emptywheel @briankrebs

          The problem is that once that gets established, I think the case is going to get very muddy and very technical.

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @matthew_d_green @briankrebs

          Again, we're arguing abt an indictment that I would bet will not be what we're looking at at trial, if there is one.

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        5. Eric JN Ellason‏ @SlickRockWeb 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @matthew_d_green

          A different take on the Krebs on Security post about @malwaretechblog 's past. https://www.slickrockweb.com/a-different-take-on-marcus-hutchins.php … #infosec #cybersecurity

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @SlickRockWeb @matthew_d_green @MalwareTechBlog

          Interesting, thanks. Should have a post up tomorrow that will be of interest.

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        7. Eric JN Ellason‏ @SlickRockWeb 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @matthew_d_green @MalwareTechBlog

          Thanks! I'll for it tomorrow.

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        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @SlickRockWeb @matthew_d_green @MalwareTechBlog

          The sabotage of the fundraiser would play right into that. I know we're not supposed to talk about that but someone really has it in for him

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        9. Eric JN Ellason‏ @SlickRockWeb 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @matthew_d_green @MalwareTechBlog

          I was thinking the same thing. That fundraising mess was more than just a practical joke IMHO. It was purposefully malicious. #infosec

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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @matthew_d_green @briankrebs

          There's good reason to believe govt at least doesn't currently intend to bring it in, based on public record of the case.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @matthew_d_green @briankrebs

          Mind you, I think it likely they'll supersede if their claims abt Kronos go to shit, as I think they might. But not with stuff from Krebs.

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        4. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @briankrebs

          Right. But it's not just about the Krebs stuff. It's about whether it's possible to play in that sandbox at all without looking dirty.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @matthew_d_green @briankrebs

          Which will be what the battle over Rule 404 is about. Again, thus far it doesn't appear they want to bring all this in.

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        6. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @briankrebs

          Again, my guess is that even if the teenage stuff doesn't come in, lots of other non-relevant but incriminating conversations will.

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        7. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @matthew_d_green @emptywheel @briankrebs

          And I say "incriminating" in the sense that they won't be actual violations of the law, but will look like spooky hacker stuff.

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        8. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @matthew_d_green @emptywheel @briankrebs

          Also likely to cloud sentencing.

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        9. matt blaze‏Verified account @mattblaze 6 Sep 2017
          Replying to @mattblaze @matthew_d_green and

          But yeah, the modern Internet means the stupid stuff technically inclined "invincible" teens sometimes do now has ruinous consequences.

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