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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. briankrebs‏Verified account @briankrebs 5 Sep 2017

      I love how the narrative has quickly turned from "the government is going after the wrong guy" to "everyone in infosec has a past"

      45 replies 94 retweets 328 likes
    2. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 5 Sep 2017
      Replying to @briankrebs

      The idea that everyone in infosec has a criminal past needs to die in a fire.

      32 replies 54 retweets 228 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 Sep 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings @counterjihader @briankrebs

      Sure. But what happens, given the Yahoo precedent, when UAE starts charging NSA hackers for SWIFT?

      1 reply 2 retweets 10 likes
    4. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 5 Sep 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @counterjihader @briankrebs

      Not sure I follow.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 Sep 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings @counterjihader @briankrebs

      What distinguishes legal IC hacking from illegally skiddie hacking is about sovereignty of the state & US/UK power.

      1 reply 1 retweet 13 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 Sep 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings and

      But the US has undermined norms of sovereign hacking w/its prosecutions of China, Iran, and RU.

      2 replies 1 retweet 10 likes
    7. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 5 Sep 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @counterjihader @briankrebs

      Not sure this makes any difference. Someone who hacks for FSB to get intel on the US isn't like someone who hacks to steal credit cards.

      4 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 Sep 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings @counterjihader @briankrebs

      And you now have to distinguish NSA hackers fr NK ones targeting SWIFT. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/04/19/the-doxing-of-equation-group-hackers-raises-questions-about-the-legal-role-of-nation-state-hackers/ …

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        2. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 5 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @counterjihader @briankrebs

          Not sure this is as hard a concept as you're trying to make it. Acting in an official capacity isn't like acting in a personal capacity.

          2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 Sep 2017
          Replying to @pwnallthethings @counterjihader @briankrebs

          Did you read that post? Of course it is. If Belan can be tried for doing FSB work so can NSA's hackers, and especially so can Booz's hackers

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
        4. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 5 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @counterjihader @briankrebs

          So what? If a country decides to try NSA hackers, that doesn't magically put hackers at NSA in a similar category to carders.

          2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
        5. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 5 Sep 2017
          Replying to @pwnallthethings @emptywheel and

          And if we charge their IC hackers, it's ultimately a foreign policy, not a criminal justice action, even if we like to pretend it's not.

          2 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 Sep 2017
          Replying to @pwnallthethings @counterjihader @briankrebs

          Karim Baratov finds that a really quaint claim, as he's in custody in SF right now, being treated as a criminal.

          3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        7. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 5 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @counterjihader @briankrebs

          POWs may live in camps with guards and barbed wire perimeters, but that doesn't make them morally equivalent to criminals either.

          1 reply 2 retweets 5 likes
        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 Sep 2017
          Replying to @pwnallthethings @counterjihader @briankrebs

          Which is entirely unrelated to this thread. I get you want to make a moral distinction. Talk to DOJ NSD, which broke that distinction.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        9. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 5 Sep 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @counterjihader @briankrebs

          If Russia starts arresting TAO hackers and we start prisoner exchanges, maybe then the distinction will be more obvious.

          1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
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