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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. David Galiel‏ @davidgaliel 29 Aug 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      3) Does it now? In what other instances where law enforcement doesn't satisfy you do you advocate/endorse vigilante violent justice?

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
      Replying to @davidgaliel

      Oops. There you go, making stuff up. Please stop that, it's a nasty little habit.

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    3. David Galiel‏ @davidgaliel 29 Aug 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      As opposed to your name calling response to an article you still haven't explained why you don't like?

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
      Replying to @davidgaliel

      I didn't call Eli names. I pointed out he is guilty of the same violence he criticizes. His cheering for violence is part of the problem.

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    5. David Galiel‏ @davidgaliel 29 Aug 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I see. So, when someone argues, "vigilante violence is wrong", you're response is, "but you cheered for other violence". Yes?

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    6. David Galiel‏ @davidgaliel 29 Aug 2017
      Replying to @davidgaliel @emptywheel

      Wait - you just went further - you said he is "guilty of the same violence". Are you now charging him with committing vigilante violence?

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
      Replying to @davidgaliel

      I am accusing him of affirmatively supporting illegal violence, Yup. And you're defending that.

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    8. David Galiel‏ @davidgaliel 29 Aug 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Again, I am not. You argue by attacking people's character, rather than addressing substance. That is very Trumpist, not very liberal.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
      Replying to @davidgaliel

      yeah. You are. I'm NOT attacking Eli's character. Stop repeating that lie. I'm attacking his actions.

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    10. David Galiel‏ @davidgaliel 29 Aug 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Do you, or do you not, support violent vigilante justice. I do not. By any "side". Why do you find it hard to answer the question?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
      Replying to @davidgaliel

      I think term "violent vigilante justice" is a term often used to deny the oppressed the ability to protect themselves from state violence

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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @davidgaliel

          I think violence IN THIS CASE is counter productive.

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        3. David Galiel‏ @davidgaliel 29 Aug 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          You support violent vigilante justice in cases you deem justified. By your own criteria, you are therefore disqualified from commenting.

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
          Replying to @davidgaliel

          LOL. Yes, self-defense is just like the violence Eli propagandizes for.

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        2. David Galiel‏ @davidgaliel 29 Aug 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Do you or do you not support violent vigilante justice? It's a set of pretty established commonly understood words. simple moral stance.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
          Replying to @davidgaliel

          No. Those who pretend it is are usually white and very privileged. You're the one pretending police violence is not a problem.

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @davidgaliel

          Anyway, this has been fun 1) You won't forswear propaganda supporting violence 2) You won't admit PoC often unfairly policed

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @davidgaliel

          No wonder you felt the attacks on Eli's ACTIONS were a threat to character.

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