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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017

    emptywheel Retweeted Dan Murphy

    Even if you accept as a premise that every single antifa is violent, this Fox narrative posits "fascist = American."https://twitter.com/bungdan/status/902546086522433536 …

    emptywheel added,

    Dan MurphyVerified account @bungdan
    I was on airplane this AM and the person in front of me was watching Fox. A solid hour on the insidious "antifa" threat to the Republic.
    8:18 AM - 29 Aug 2017
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    10 replies 56 retweets 91 likes
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      2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Someone should get Fox News on the record whether they oppose Churchill's legacy and all he stood for.

        3 replies 8 retweets 31 likes
      3. David Swanson‏ @davidcnswanson 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        His racism or his militarism or his authoritarianism?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @davidcnswanson

        That's the point. They LOVED all that last week! You also forgot imperialism, didn't you?

        0 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      5. End of conversation
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      2. Mako‏ @makomk 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Errm, the violence is the defining characteristic of antifa. Someone who's against fascism but isn't violent is just a normal person.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @makomk

        That is the premise I'm letting people assume, all evidence notwithstanding. But why would America prefer fascistic violence over antifa?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Mako‏ @makomk 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        You're assuming that the latter helps stop the former rather than enabling it, which historically speaking is a very dicey proposition.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Mako‏ @makomk 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @makomk @emptywheel

        Also, there's a pattern of intentional violence against journalists to stop them filming antifa actions which ought to trouble the press.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @makomk

        And I'm ceding both of those as the premise here. Still doesn't change Fox's pro-fascist position.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. End of conversation
      1. incense & peppermints 🌹‏ @kerbeari 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        So did Trump get his "both sides" antifa views from Fox or did they start running all the scary antifa stuff to back him up?

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      1. Jason‏ @hoosierjason 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        The media should be very careful about labeling some of the provocateurs as leftist. They have no idea.

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      1. Jason‏ @hoosierjason 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        It wouldn't be the first time its happened.

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      1. Jason‏ @hoosierjason 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        There's also literally no way of identifying who some of these people are. They could be law enforcement agitators, right-wing agitators

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      1. Ryukø Ghoul‏ @junkieXjunkie 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I told him I love antifa & he can't understand at all it's funny he just 100% believes they are destroying America

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      1. Ryukø Ghoul‏ @junkieXjunkie 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Antifa & talking about how evil & violent they are & how they are terrorists & should be stopped.. he got redpilled over the last 2 years

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      2. Mike Clagg‏ @belikemike 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel @OaklandElle

        White supremacy is an American value, unfortunately.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Spooky Elle  👻‏ @ElleArmageddon 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @belikemike @emptywheel

        Yes, but I don't think Fox news is intentionally acknowledging that.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Mike Clagg‏ @belikemike 29 Aug 2017
        Replying to @ElleArmageddon @OaklandElle @emptywheel

        They have had zero patience with @Kaepernick7, but defend white supremacists as just exercising their free speech. Nazis are worse.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. End of conversation

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