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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings

      We're talking abt #s of disclosures, but ALSO tracking whether those disclosures actual led to vuln being fixed. Also asking for real policy

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

      Reporting is better thought out than I would have expected (and may embarrass some squawking tech so in process).

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      So I agree, but it is premised on the belief that more disclosures = more security, rather than taking a step back and asking if that's true

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings

      At the very least this will answer the "how often do companies that get disclosure act in timely fashion" question.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

      With the public embarrassment factor, to boot.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Sure. But the Q that matters isn't "when did you have patch" but "when did 99% customers patched"?

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings

      I mean, whatever else we got out of WannaCry, we have sense of what got patched off silent patch, whose use of pirated software is a problem

      1 reply 2 retweets 2 likes
    8. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      What WannaCry showed is disclosure without some critical theshold of customers actually patching quickly is cybersecurity homeopathy.

      2 replies 3 retweets 7 likes
    9. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings @emptywheel

      VEP needs to move from thinking about "how many bugs are disclosed" to "how do we fix classes of bugs" and "how do we patch quickly"

      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    10. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings

      And the numbers collected here will provide some base level data -- with adverse publicity -- addressing the latter Q.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 24 Aug 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @pwnallthethings

      The classified report will let the Intel Committees, at least, see if we're talking classes of bugs, won't it?

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        2. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Dont need a classified report to tell you that. E.g. notice how WordPress has had more than one SQLi bug and yet still doesn't parametrize

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @pwnallthethings @emptywheel

          Notice how Microsoft has patched more than 1 SMB remote 0day and yet still parses it in the kernel. Same categories of bugs. Year after year

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        4. GolFoxtrot Yankee‏ @kylesrobinson 24 Aug 2017
          Replying to @pwnallthethings @emptywheel

          And THAT is why the agencies responsible take a dim view of doing the security aspects of a vendors job for them.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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