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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @domarkus @JameelJaffer

      1/ I do want a bright line: I think no protection is right, but if they want to protect should always protect. But mosaic theory rejects

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr @domarkus @JameelJaffer

      2/ always protect rule: Mosaic proponents say protect sometimes, but don't protect other times, & refuse to say how to distinguish them.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr @domarkus @JameelJaffer

      3/ & you have no REP in public. Only have REP in places protected by an REP, like houses, cars, letters, closed packages, etc.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Paul Rosenzweig‏ @RosenzweigP 8 Aug 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr @domarkus @JameelJaffer

      Ok. I will play. Mosaic is when sufficient data collected to allow reasonable inference of fact that could not be determined by single /1

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Paul Rosenzweig‏ @RosenzweigP 8 Aug 2017
      Replying to @RosenzweigP @OrinKerr and

      Of observation. Technology dependendent but factually determinable. Grey areas in middle but... /2

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Paul Rosenzweig‏ @RosenzweigP 8 Aug 2017
      Replying to @RosenzweigP @OrinKerr and

      Clear lines at the ends. Independent of sensor type. /3 =30=

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Aug 2017
      Replying to @RosenzweigP @OrinKerr and

      See, you're headed in same direction I am. I'd add retention limits and increased probable cause for correlated data.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Paul Rosenzweig‏ @RosenzweigP 8 Aug 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @OrinKerr and

      We can talk. 😀

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Aug 2017
      Replying to @RosenzweigP @OrinKerr and

      We should. Orin thinks no one has ideas how to do this.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Orin Kerr‏Verified account @OrinKerr 8 Aug 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @RosenzweigP and

      I look forward to your proposals. It's been only 5 years with no one providing answers, so now is a good time for them. :)

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 8 Aug 2017
      Replying to @OrinKerr @RosenzweigP and

      Well, I wrote something extensive in 2014 (but didn't publish it among all my other big battles on USAF).

      12:25 PM - 8 Aug 2017
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