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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Aug 2017

    On Feb 20, 2016, Trump beat Christian Conservative candidate, Ted Cruz, in SC, 34.5% to 19.3%. ~3 weeks before hack-and-leak by RU started

    10:31 AM - 6 Aug 2017
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      2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        A critical date bc it proved explicit racism could--and would--beat all the claptrap GOP has invested in religion over last several decades.

        1 reply 23 retweets 47 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I raise that bc there's STILL a push to suggest Trumpistas influenced by Putin. Yeah, Putin helped. But Trump was ALREADY winning w/racism.

        5 replies 23 retweets 74 likes
      4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Push to blame Trump exclusively on Putin has effect of letting racists off the hook. They--& America--are not responsible for racism. RU is.

        6 replies 27 retweets 84 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        But the fact of the matter--as proven by SC primary--is Trump was enabled first and foremost by America's tolerance of racism.

        7 replies 36 retweets 102 likes
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      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @JeanLR

        It's a more helpful insight than blaming Putin.

        2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
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      9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @JeanLR

        I'm not overlooking. I'm pointing out that people who want to blame RU first are coddling racists.

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      2. Jestbill‏ @Jestbill 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Always, the question is "What to do?" It's illegal and punishable for RU to interfere. Racism is a different category.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @Jestbill

        It's illegal and punishable for RU?

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      4. Jestbill‏ @Jestbill 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        What to do? Sanctions on Russia, punishment for anyone who took part. Of course Racism is the main point, but voting based on it not illegal

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @Jestbill

        Actually, suppressing the vote to suppress the vote is illegal, but w/o teeth (in same way RU interference doesn't have teeth).

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Jestbill‏ @Jestbill 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Too much shorthand for my simple understanding. You're saying propaganda doesn't work? Russia gummed us for Trump?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @Jestbill

        Both difficult problems. But w/o doing something abt the racism, you're not going to fix problem, bc it is the far more powerful problem.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Jestbill‏ @Jestbill 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Yes. Agreed. Only reason I stuck my nose in was to emphasize that throwing some people in jail is required short term.

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      9. Jestbill‏ @Jestbill 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @Jestbill @emptywheel

        A lot of people are just unreachable on the Racism problem.

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      2. David j‏ @David_Jorgonson 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Racism helped Trump in the primary; but Kasich would have done better than Trump in the general.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @David_Jorgonson

        Possibly true. I don't engage in any counterfactuals on last year bc it was a historically weird year.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. James Moody‏ @GodlessLib_CB 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        That night is when it was pretty clear Trump would win. In fact, back in '15 I said Cruz would win nom. Well, so much for that I thought

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Xboxershorts‏ @Xboxershorts 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @GodlessLib_CB @emptywheel

        Trump and Cruz very similar in their acceptance of racial divide. Trump is just more overt about it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. James Moody‏ @GodlessLib_CB 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @Xboxershorts @emptywheel

        Yes, as Marcy notes I thought the extreme religiosity with Cruz's racism would prevail. But pure racist red meat conquers all

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      5. Xboxershorts‏ @Xboxershorts 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @GodlessLib_CB @emptywheel

        Sad, but true.

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