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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald 7 Jul 2017

      Glenn Greenwald Retweeted Benjamin Wittes

      Have you yet learned the answer? Please do share it with everyone once you have https://theintercept.com/2017/07/07/rachel-maddows-exclusive-scoop-about-a-fake-nsa-document-raises-several-key-questions/ …https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/883285835768098816 …

      Glenn Greenwald added,

      Benjamin WittesVerified account @benjaminwittes
      Replying to @benjaminwittes @maddow
      I will be very interested to learn whether the true lesson of this @maddow story is that the Intercept has, as I predicted, been penetrated.
      37 replies 73 retweets 223 likes
    2. Benjamin Wittes‏Verified account @benjaminwittes 7 Jul 2017
      Replying to @ggreenwald

      That's very interesting. If @maddow's account was misleading, and I was misunderstood the reality as a result, I certainly apologize.

      11 replies 6 retweets 64 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 Jul 2017
      Replying to @benjaminwittes @ggreenwald @maddow

      Ben, you already got told by multiple people that the document creation date undermined Maddow's narrative. What more do you need?

      12:07 PM - 7 Jul 2017
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      6 replies 16 retweets 78 likes
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        2. Glenn Greenwald‏Verified account @ggreenwald 7 Jul 2017
          Replying to @TCleveland4Real @emptywheel and

          The big issue isn't that the metadata can be faked (though that's relevant). It's that the time-stamp on both docs are *identical*.

          1 reply 0 retweets 20 likes
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        4. barry diggens  🌹‏ @Berned_by_321 7 Jul 2017
          Replying to @TCleveland4Real @ggreenwald and

          y would @maddow choose 2 run a story like this before checking w @theintercept , unfortunate, bc a story about forgery itself isn't accurate

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Louise Menschevik‏ @MikeStillAwake 7 Jul 2017
          Replying to @Berned_by_321 @TCleveland4Real and

          It reeks of trying to salvage the original fake story by stretching the meta-story way beyond the evidence. It's not a service, it's hackery

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. barry diggens  🌹‏ @Berned_by_321 7 Jul 2017
          Replying to @MikeStillAwake @TCleveland4Real and

          Jumping on board an idea bc it suits your narrative is something that I, a lowly twitbot, try to catch snd avoi, shouldn't be Maddow doin it

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. barry diggens  🌹‏ @Berned_by_321 7 Jul 2017
          Replying to @Berned_by_321 @MikeStillAwake and

          There's even the possibility of Maddow herself having leaked the altered version, just to prove that she's above Russia hysteria

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Chris, ɹǝxıℲ ǝɥ⊥ "Duty to Warn"‏ @extapdancer 7 Jul 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @benjaminwittes and

          The timestamp is about .001% of the story. Relative to the other issues with the document, it is almost meaningless.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Kireau Kendrick‏ @kireau 7 Jul 2017
          Replying to @extapdancer @emptywheel and

          exactly! @maddow 's story was abt a faked doc she received likely trying to ruin the credibility of @msnbc.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. Daniel Missale‏ @Dmiss4 8 Jul 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @benjaminwittes and

          "Cld b a fake timestamp" doesn't undermine anything. If it did, every doc glenn has ever published is now undermined because every TS cld b.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. Kireau Kendrick‏ @kireau 7 Jul 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @ggreenwald and

          nothing undermined @maddow 's narrative. what was undermined was witte's tweet that The Intercepts security was penetrated.

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        2. HopefulSkeptic‏ @GoldenRuleLover 7 Jul 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @benjaminwittes and

          Glenn, if you & yours are the source of this, maybe do the reporting to find out who did and is trying to set you up. Mobsters? Trump hacks?

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        1. Brad Casali‏ @btc2008 7 Jul 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @benjaminwittes and

          Forgive me, but what does the creation date reveal that the contents themselves don't about the document's genuineness?

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