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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Jeff Vader‏ @zezezebe 6 Jul 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ianbremmer

      OK may have read too much into your Qs.Still they accompany belief u expressed re arrests linked to elex.W/o confirmed links all speculation

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2017
      Replying to @zezezebe @ianbremmer

      It is equally speculative that Obama did nothing or could do something. Point is there's a lot we don't know.

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    3. Jeff Vader‏ @zezezebe 6 Jul 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ianbremmer

      Well we have WaPo thrillers about secret envelopes that were both unreliable and certain enough to write statements.Schroedinger's Russia.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Jeff Vader‏ @zezezebe 6 Jul 2017
      Replying to @zezezebe @emptywheel @ianbremmer

      We know an embarrassing story of admin handwringing over uncertain evidence that they still felt obligated to blame Russia publicly for.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2017
      Replying to @zezezebe @ianbremmer

      "they felt obligated." Now THERE's a statement for which I know of zero public evidence.

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    6. Jeff Vader‏ @zezezebe 6 Jul 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ianbremmer

      OK rewording: stories say it was uncertain,they still spent time playing with secret envelopes,despite uncertainty decided to go public.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2017
      Replying to @zezezebe @ianbremmer

      Got a citation for "stories say it was uncertain"? bc I've never read a story like that, least of all in the WaPo.

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    8. Jeff Vader‏ @zezezebe 6 Jul 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ianbremmer

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/world/national-security/obama-putin-election-hacking/?utm_term=.dc40834c5710 …pic.twitter.com/1t2wPNwIhb

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2017
      Replying to @zezezebe @ianbremmer

      You apparently are unfamiliar with the past tense. It refers to a state that existed in the past. Thus the name.

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    10. Jeff Vader‏ @zezezebe 6 Jul 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @ianbremmer

      The value is in highlighting uncertainty.Text then just says agencies reached agreement,but given this fragment how solid is the evidence?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2017
      Replying to @zezezebe @ianbremmer

      Well, you JUST said the text says agencies reached agreement. Why do you invent uncertainty that is not reflected in text?

      4:49 AM - 6 Jul 2017
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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 Jul 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @zezezebe @ianbremmer

          Again, I appreciate skepticism, think USG is being FAR too secretive w/evidence (that I know) they have. But don't invent USG uncertainty

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        3. Jeff Vader‏ @zezezebe 6 Jul 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @ianbremmer

          I'm just pointing out every article has some disclaimers and caveats.Caveats about collusion ("no evidence") or Russia ("not definitive").

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        1. Jeff Vader‏ @zezezebe 6 Jul 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @ianbremmer

          I point to uncertainty in the fragment.Pt 1: evidence not definitive,low confidence source. Pt 2:agencies reached agreement. Based on Pt 1?

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