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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 27 Jun 2017

      .@LizaGoitein just suggested newly approving back door searches on content incl domestic comms not novel legal issue https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/06/27/usa-freedom-act-booster-misses-opportunity-to-note-fisc-blew-off-usaf/ …

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    2. Elizabeth Goitein‏ @LizaGoitein 27 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I literally said the opposite. "[In] the FISA Court’s decision on back door searches...there were a number of...very novel legal issues."

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 27 Jun 2017
      Replying to @LizaGoitein

      No. You mentioned that re appeals in decisions with amici. Not this one.

      10:34 AM - 27 Jun 2017
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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 27 Jun 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @LizaGoitein

          If you meant to say Collyer violated USAF you'll want to correct your testimony.

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        3. Elizabeth Goitein‏ @LizaGoitein 27 Jun 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Nothing in my testimony was factually inaccurate. I didn't say (or mean to say) anything about Collyer.

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 27 Jun 2017
          Replying to @LizaGoitein

          So when you said "for the most part" FISC had appointed an amicus for novel decisions, was Collyer included in that?

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        5. Elizabeth Goitein‏ @LizaGoitein 27 Jun 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Do I really have to explain what "for the most part" means?? In MOST significant cases, FISC has appointed amicus. Obviously not in April.

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 27 Jun 2017
          Replying to @LizaGoitein

          And ... when the FISC doesn't do so, what are they obligated by law to do?

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        7. Elizabeth Goitein‏ @LizaGoitein 27 Jun 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Something Collyer didn't do. What's your point? None of that makes what I said inaccurate.

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        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 27 Jun 2017
          Replying to @LizaGoitein

          Sorry. I thought it would be useful to mention that Collyer didn't just not appoint an amicus but violated the law. Seems significant.

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        2. Elizabeth Goitein‏ @LizaGoitein 27 Jun 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Right, but if it's significant or novel for purposes of needing appeal, it's also significant or novel for purposes of needing an amicus.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 27 Jun 2017
          Replying to @LizaGoitein

          A pity your testimony didn't mention Collyer's failure to even consider one then.

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        4. Elizabeth Goitein‏ @LizaGoitein 27 Jun 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Agree, a pity. Not "affirmative damage" though. And it's harder than you think to hit every major point when answering these Qs.

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