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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 27 Jun 2017
      Replying to @JakeLaperruque @senjudiciary

      There are certainly cases where incidental USP collection relates strongly to the privacy of the USP. But bulk of them (by volume) don't.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    2.  🤔Jake Laperruque 😒‏ @JakeLaperruque 27 Jun 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings @senjudiciary

      I don't know how you can make that assertion about quantity, and even if it's *only* hundreds of thousands that's still highly problematic

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 27 Jun 2017
      Replying to @JakeLaperruque @senjudiciary

      Prob is that "incidental collection" covers very broad categories of collection contexts, many of which have exactly zero privacy relevance.

      3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 27 Jun 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings @JakeLaperruque @senjudiciary

      But that's not why they're not coming up with a number. Both [US Actor 1] and [US corporation 1] are really easy to ID as US persons.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 27 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @JakeLaperruque @senjudiciary

      The hard one is working out whether email addresses / social media handles or proper names are USPs at scale across all collection.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 27 Jun 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings @JakeLaperruque @senjudiciary

      Except that "at scale across all collection" is handled with sampling.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 27 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @JakeLaperruque @senjudiciary

      Sampling doesn't solve how to work out whether joe.awesome476@hotmail.com on the cc-line of an email is a USP or not.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 27 Jun 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings @JakeLaperruque @senjudiciary

      No. But NSA has plenty of ways to try to figure that out.

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    9. P̵̛wn̷̕̕ A̶͡ll͜͝͝ T̡̛̕h̷̶̀͠͡e̷̵̶̷ T̵͜͢h̸̸́͟i̕ng͝s͡‏ @pwnallthethings 27 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @JakeLaperruque @senjudiciary

      How?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Julian Sanchez‏ @normative 27 Jun 2017
      Replying to @pwnallthethings @emptywheel and

      If nothing else, Hotmail (and Google and Yahoo) have a pretty good idea where their users routinely connect from.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 27 Jun 2017
      Replying to @normative @pwnallthethings and

      My gosh, you're not suggesting that providers have geolocation data?!?!?!

      8:38 AM - 27 Jun 2017
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        1. Cic3r0  🏴 #NOV2018  👉 🤛‏ @Cic3r01 27 Jun 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @normative and

          Yea - you know .... it's only #metadata 😁

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