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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Miriam Elder‏Verified account @MiriamElder 26 Jun 2017

      Russia has used Americans abducted *in Syria* as negotiating pawns for Russians imprisoned in the US https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/world/middleeast/austin-tice-syria-cia-pompeo.html …pic.twitter.com/Kvj8V2gQIx

      9 replies 314 retweets 282 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Jun 2017
      Replying to @MiriamElder @HannahAllam

      It'd be nice to know who they wanted to exchange. Bout, for example, wasn't actually arrested here.

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    3. Miriam Elder‏Verified account @MiriamElder 26 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @HannahAllam

      He was arrested as part of a US sting operation and tried in the US. Not sure place of arrest would make a difference to the Russians here.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Jun 2017
      Replying to @MiriamElder @HannahAllam

      You're kidding, right? You honestly think that's treated as a normal assertion of sovereign jurisdiction by other countries, esp RU? Really?

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    5. Miriam Elder‏Verified account @MiriamElder 26 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @HannahAllam

      If, as you posited, they were to have use this construct as an attempt to get him back, then yes, because getting him back is a priority.

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    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Jun 2017
      Replying to @MiriamElder @HannahAllam

      No. I posited that almost anyone who observed that case from a non-jingoistic view recognized it (and similar EDNY cases) as aggressive.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Miriam Elder‏Verified account @MiriamElder 26 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @HannahAllam

      Didn’t get that, thought you were asking a straight-up question.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Jun 2017
      Replying to @MiriamElder @HannahAllam

      I was surprised to hear someone talk about Bout's case as if it weren't highly unusual and wanted to know if you really believed it was. Yes

      5:58 AM - 26 Jun 2017
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        2. Miriam Elder‏Verified account @MiriamElder 26 Jun 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @HannahAllam

          That’s a different question than how the Russians would treat it — they care about international law when it suits them.

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        3. Miriam Elder‏Verified account @MiriamElder 26 Jun 2017
          Replying to @MiriamElder @emptywheel @HannahAllam

          And when it doesn’t, they throw it out the window. As they would if they were looking to get Bout back under this construct.

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        4. JackRussell‏ @johnbarbirolli 26 Jun 2017
          Replying to @MiriamElder @emptywheel @HannahAllam

          And the US doesn't?

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 26 Jun 2017
          Replying to @johnbarbirolli @MiriamElder @HannahAllam

          Right. Analysis that starts from assumption that *only* RU fiddles w/intl norms and law will end w/polemic bc premise is faulty.

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