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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @JGamblin

      According the public record it's not clear that FBI ever even got the metadata from their first suspect.

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    2. Jerry Gamblin‏Verified account @JGamblin 22 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I am not sure if you are arguing "more people should be punished" or "it could be anyone, so punish no one"?

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Jun 2017
      Replying to @JGamblin

      Arguing absent actual evidence of transmission of classified info & 3 other poss suspects & facts Sterling may not have had=reasonable doubt

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    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @JGamblin

      Are you arguing the standard in this country isn't supposed to be reasonable doubt?

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @JGamblin

      Or are you arguing, we need a head and Sterling is the most likely one so chop that one off?

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    6. Jerry Gamblin‏Verified account @JGamblin 22 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I think we both know when you are given access to classified materials you give up some of the freedoms your fellow citizens have.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Jun 2017
      Replying to @JGamblin

      That's a straw man. You don't give up the freedom to have non-classified conversations.

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    8. Jerry Gamblin‏Verified account @JGamblin 22 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      You dont, but if a reporter you are having non-classified conversations with writes a book with classified information you are screwed.

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Jun 2017
      Replying to @JGamblin

      Yes. This establishes standard that providing unclassified tips is sufficient to send you to prison. I find that utterly objectionable.

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    10. Jerry Gamblin‏Verified account @JGamblin 22 Jun 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      So do I.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Jun 2017
      Replying to @JGamblin

      Then you should be offended that those 3 charges were upheld. I might support the other ones (for the book). But not the unwritten NYT story

      7:54 AM - 22 Jun 2017
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        1. Jerry Gamblin‏Verified account @JGamblin 22 Jun 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I am not as offended as understand it changes the burden of proof for people with clearance.

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        2. Jerry Gamblin‏Verified account @JGamblin 22 Jun 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Going forward anyone with clearance talking to anyone in the press is taking a huge risk of this happening to them.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Jun 2017
          Replying to @JGamblin

          Yeah. I don't think that's a good thing. I get unclassified tips all the time that lead me to unclassified docs that substantiate class info

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 22 Jun 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @JGamblin

          This will also prevent people from giving reporters tips on things they can FOIA.

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