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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 May 2017

      Not mentioned in this piece on insider threats: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/05/nsa-cyberattack/526644/ … 1) 1/5 docs Snowden stole were blank https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/01/18/one-fifth-of-documents-edward-snowden-stole-were-blank/ …

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    2. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned 12 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      That is the most unuseful article I've ever read, so maybe there's a reason that didn't come up.

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 May 2017
      Replying to @outsh1ned

      I'd love a nuanced discussion of insider threat. But yeah. That's not it. That said, civ libs making similarly unuseful VEP args now.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned 12 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I meant yours. It's literally a discussion of a count that was excluded for being irrelevant, from another irrelevant number.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 May 2017
      Replying to @outsh1ned

      Oh. Then it's a great way to prove the underlying number--which @AmyZegart was using--is also bogus. That too subtle for you?

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    6. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned 12 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @AmyZegart

      Is subtlety the correct word? You can't, don't cite a more accurate count than she does. How's this 20% blank nobody cites become relevant?

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 May 2017
      Replying to @outsh1ned @AmyZegart

      The relevant number is the one the IC, not DIA uses. But IF you're going to adopt the dumb number DIA uses, you have to count all he touched

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    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @outsh1ned @AmyZegart

      But, yeah, if you don't understand that, then subtle may be the correct word. Amy's number was bogus. She has to use either full or partial.

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    9. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned 12 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @AmyZegart

      Yeah I'm sure it comes down to everyone else being dumb, not understanding, failing your nuance in every instance. Only explanation

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 May 2017
      Replying to @outsh1ned @AmyZegart

      You forgot sloppy thinking. You can choose 1) All (incl blanks) 2) what IC uses or 3) Some arbitrary subset of all that ignores collex

      5:52 PM - 12 May 2017
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        1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @outsh1ned @AmyZegart

          Amy chose the arbitrary number, the one with the least intellectually justifiable basis. Her choice. Also ignores destruction evidence.

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        2. outsh1ned‏ @outsh1ned 12 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @AmyZegart

          I think we've established any disagreement over criticism of widely cited figures being widely cited is due to other humans being inferior.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 May 2017
          Replying to @outsh1ned @AmyZegart

          Not inferior. Sloppy, uncritical thinking. That entire report is facially poor. Amy's written abt bad oversight. It's a great example.

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @outsh1ned @AmyZegart

          I mean, heck, some key claims in report are undermined by publicly FOIAed documents. If HPSCI report can't withstand FOIA, not a good report

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 12 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @outsh1ned @AmyZegart

          I could go on. Amy has written, very credibly, about bad oversight. That report is a stellar example. Hopefully she'll use it only as such.

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