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    emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2017

    In any case, I hope Macron has a ready explanation and forensics to show which of the docs he faked and how he faked them.

    11:49 AM - 7 May 2017
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      2. Eight‏ @Voidoided 7 May 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Do you think you/we have a right to know?

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2017
        Replying to @Voidoided

        A "right"? No. But if we end up not knowing than it has the same effect we presume leak did in first place.

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      4. Eight‏ @Voidoided 7 May 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Disinfectant might have to be poisoning all the leak-wells so their credibility is shot. Unlikely ever to be able to stop them filling up.

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2017
        Replying to @Voidoided

        Except in this case the opposite happened.

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      6. Eight‏ @Voidoided 7 May 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        In what way?

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      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2017
        Replying to @Voidoided

        Well, WL's first comment was that these might be fake, and it has done some very visible vetting since then.

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      8. Eight‏ @Voidoided 7 May 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        And its second went in hard against Macron, saying he couldn't know they were fake and they were ahead (I wonder how?). Backpedalling after.

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      9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2017
        Replying to @Voidoided

        And guess what? In retrospect, that proved smart, bc we have been reminded that Macron said he'd seed fakes.

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      2. WhatWorldDoYouWant?‏ @troublingtome 7 May 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        What's your point in pursuing this?

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2017
        Replying to @troublingtome

        It's my job to try to understand what actually happened. This will make it harder to do that & potentially lead to same trust issues in Q.

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      4. WhatWorldDoYouWant?‏ @troublingtome 7 May 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        What are you wanting to trust vis a vis Macron? Your thinking it's a false flag operation?

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      5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2017
        Replying to @troublingtome

        If Macron has admitted he faked docs does that mean he false flagged himself?

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      6. WhatWorldDoYouWant?‏ @troublingtome 7 May 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Right?! Yet I must say emptywheel, you perplex me in what your true motivations are sometimes! Exposing falsehoods? Poking power? Ru opts?

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      7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2017
        Replying to @troublingtome

        I am interested in the way that double standards on cyber undercut efforts to establish norms that would make attacks less damaging.

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      8. beulahjetson‏ @fideldd 7 May 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel @troublingtome

        makes sense, but reliance on norms is precisely what has been so devastatingly exploited by DT campaign & Admin (they're elective by nature)

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      9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2017
        Replying to @fideldd @troublingtome

        Fair point. But the US needs to find some way to combat being the most vulnerable target for hacking.

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      2. Andy‏ @AndyKirn 7 May 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        Which ones are fake? Seems to me they are bullshitting to cover up, just crying "fake!".

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      3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 7 May 2017
        Replying to @AndyKirn

        Dunno. I assume they'll be able to say which are.

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      4. Andy‏ @AndyKirn 7 May 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        I assume they won't, but nobody will care, similar to claims made by the DNC.

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      2. Sherry‏ @stemeakabrunson 7 May 2017
        Replying to @emptywheel

        My understanding is after they were informed they were

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      3. Sherry‏ @stemeakabrunson 7 May 2017
        Replying to @stemeakabrunson @emptywheel

        Being hacked, instead of trying to do it they instead started flooding it with fake info. So not all the info released was fake but ALOT of

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      4. Sherry‏ @stemeakabrunson 7 May 2017
        Replying to @stemeakabrunson @emptywheel

        It was.

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