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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2017
      Replying to @microbear1 @okanogen2010 and

      Nope. How many US citizens communications will be caught up in 106K full data streams?

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    2. paul elledge‏ @microbear1 6 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @okanogen2010 and

      Caught up, but again, how many are searched illegally without a warrant or unmasked? Usually only the gatherer has unmasked intel

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2017
      Replying to @microbear1 @okanogen2010 and

      FISC has approved these searches; they're considered legal but Congress may change that. But 5,000 USPs were searched on w/o a warrant.

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. okanogenDrinksBEER‏ @okanogen2010 6 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @microbear1 and

      So the 106k "data stream" number is NSA. Raw data. FBI and CIA get a subset. What 34k? CIA gets more than FBI? Same? This is over 4years?

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2017
      Replying to @okanogen2010 @microbear1 and

      106K is just last year. Last year they pulled all the data streams for 94K targets. Before that 92K targets. Data kept for 5 years.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. paul elledge‏ @microbear1 6 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @okanogen2010 and

      Again of who? You have said 106k US citizens and106k foreigners.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2017
      Replying to @microbear1 @okanogen2010 and

      I keep pointing out these are foreigners. Q is how many Americans are talking to those 106K foreigners? We don't know.pic.twitter.com/GSqLrNBVG8

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    8. paul elledge‏ @microbear1 6 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @okanogen2010 and

      So why do we care how many foreigners are spied on? That's legal and the job of the IC. That seems 100% fine and dandy.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2017
      Replying to @microbear1 @okanogen2010 and

      If you're pulling full streams off 106K foreigners who talk to Americans, you're pulling in the conversations of a whole lot of Americans

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. paul elledge‏ @microbear1 6 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @okanogen2010 and

      But how would that number be bigger, or the biggest number as you say?

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2017
      Replying to @microbear1 @okanogen2010 and

      Number would be bigger than 9000. Every time FBI opens NatSec investigation, & for some "assessments" and criminal cases, it'll search FISA

      11:50 AM - 6 May 2017
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        2. paul elledge‏ @microbear1 6 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @okanogen2010 and

          Bigger than 9000 is nowhere near 106k and you said it was biggest number yet.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 6 May 2017
          Replying to @microbear1 @okanogen2010 and

          Sorry. I meant within that one tweet.

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