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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. okanogenDrinksBEER‏ @okanogen2010 5 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @Bwonk_Bwonk and

      And so should you. Rand clearly was implying that warrantless "wiretapping" already targeted Trump, and "other" candidates.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
      Replying to @okanogen2010 @Bwonk_Bwonk and

      Rand was linking through to piece about back door searches. I absolutely agree it is inflammatory to call that "wiretapping," even w/quotes

      3 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @okanogen2010 and

      But it is also the case that claim Gov needs warrant to do what Paul linked to (and thereby was talking about) is utterly false.

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    4. okanogenDrinksBEER‏ @okanogen2010 5 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @Bwonk_Bwonk and

      But Paul linked to an unmasking article and was talking about warrantless wiretapping on candidates. So he is the one making false claims.

      1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
      Replying to @okanogen2010 @Bwonk_Bwonk and

      No.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. okanogenDrinksBEER‏ @okanogen2010 5 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @Bwonk_Bwonk and

      Look. I followed your link to your article as directed (you are welcome for the click), and it describes meta-data collection and use. 1/

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. okanogenDrinksBEER‏ @okanogen2010 5 May 2017
      Replying to @okanogen2010 @emptywheel and

      Metadata collection and use IS NOT WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING. It is problematic, I grant, but not what Senator Tinfoil was talking about.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Radio Free Pennsylvania T‏ @Bwonk_Bwonk 5 May 2017
      Replying to @okanogen2010 @emptywheel and

      Okanagan peach, beware provokatsiya. I think Sen Paul is trying to conflate "warrantless" with "unmasking", rile for infowars & survivalists

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
      Replying to @Bwonk_Bwonk @okanogen2010 and

      And you'd be wrong. This doesn't require unmasking. Please don't be Kremlinesque in your failure to actually learn something.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. okanogenDrinksBEER‏ @okanogen2010 5 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @Bwonk_Bwonk and

      If you mean reviewing metadata like emails, identities, connections, then you are right. You haven't shown evidence of more.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
      Replying to @okanogen2010 @Bwonk_Bwonk and

      NO I DON'T mean metadata. NSA, by itself, does >30,000 searches of metadata. They & CIA do >5,000 searches on content.

      10:29 AM - 5 May 2017
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. okanogenDrinksBEER‏ @okanogen2010 5 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @Bwonk_Bwonk and

          You just said below "email addresses and identifiers", but now you say "content"? MAKE. UP. YOUR. MIND.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
          Replying to @okanogen2010 @Bwonk_Bwonk and

          You're unfamiliar with how databases work?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. Radio Free Pennsylvania T‏ @Bwonk_Bwonk 5 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @okanogen2010 and

          Empty, your thread has personal deprecating comments that r not helpful (Kremlinesque) when words could be better spent in clarification.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
          Replying to @Bwonk_Bwonk @okanogen2010 and

          It's not Kremlinesque to call anything you don't understand provokatsiya?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Radio Free Pennsylvania T‏ @Bwonk_Bwonk 5 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @okanogen2010 and

          Gosh, I understand metadata v content. I do understand provokatsiya and it's anti-Kremlin to call it out.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
          Replying to @Bwonk_Bwonk @okanogen2010 and

          emptywheel Retweeted Radio Free Pennsylvania T

          This tweet shows you don't understand this.https://twitter.com/Bwonk_Bwonk/status/860542812433121280 …

          emptywheel added,

          Radio Free Pennsylvania T @Bwonk_Bwonk
          Replying to @okanogen2010 @emptywheel and 2 others
          Okanagan peach, beware provokatsiya. I think Sen Paul is trying to conflate "warrantless" with "unmasking", rile for infowars & survivalists
          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @Bwonk_Bwonk and

          It's not about unmasking. It's about warrantless access to raw data, directly to the communications.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. okanogenDrinksBEER‏ @okanogen2010 5 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @Bwonk_Bwonk and

          So, what you are objecting to is FBI/CIA/NSA access to actual content of US citizen conversations with monitored foreign actors? Correct?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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