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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. Natasha Bertrand‏Verified account @NatashaBertrand 5 May 2017

      Natasha Bertrand Retweeted Senator Rand Paul

      this. didn't. happen. the IC can't surveil a US person without a FISA warrant. kind of shocking that @RandPaul is getting on this bandwagon.https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/860480504168165378 …

      Natasha Bertrand added,

      Senator Rand PaulVerified account @RandPaul
      Did the Obama admin use warrantless "wiretapping" on other candidates besides @realDonaldTrump? http://circa.com/politics/circa-asks-president-trump-to-declassify-data-on-nsa-spying-on-americans …
      67 replies 135 retweets 254 likes
    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
      Replying to @NatashaBertrand @RandPaul

      Wow. No. You're wrong. The Circa piece is about back door searches. Which is 100% surveilling USPs w/o FISA warrant.

      3 replies 2 retweets 14 likes
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @NatashaBertrand @RandPaul

      Just as an example, we can be virtually certain they "surveilled' Mike Flynn in that way. Bc doing so is routine. Same w/Manafort.

      4 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
    4. Natasha Bertrand‏Verified account @NatashaBertrand 5 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @RandPaul

      that is nowhere near the allegation that Rand Paul is making, which is that the Obama admin ordered a "wiretapping" "ON" pres. candidates

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
      Replying to @NatashaBertrand @RandPaul

      Again, the Circa piece is about back door searches, and "wiretapping" is in quotes. The answer to Paul is prolly "no" but not an unfair Q.

      2 replies 1 retweet 5 likes
    6. Natasha Bertrand‏Verified account @NatashaBertrand 5 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @RandPaul

      oh, the "quotes" argument again. and here i was sure that defense had been mocked into oblivion.

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
      Replying to @NatashaBertrand @RandPaul

      Your practice is to not link through before you respond to a tweet?

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @NatashaBertrand @RandPaul

      Yes, Paul is being inflammatory. But yes, you are totally incorrect abt unmasking and back door searches.

      7:48 AM - 5 May 2017
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      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
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        2. Radio Free Pennsylvania T‏ @Bwonk_Bwonk 5 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @NatashaBertrand @RandPaul

          Loose terminology leads to fuzzy concepts leads to *more* fake news. Want justice and accuracy both sides of aisle.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
          Replying to @Bwonk_Bwonk @NatashaBertrand @RandPaul

          Great! Then journalists should not affirmatively misinform when they try to refute inflammatory language.

          1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
        4. okanogenDrinksBEER‏ @okanogen2010 5 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @Bwonk_Bwonk and

          And so should you. Rand clearly was implying that warrantless "wiretapping" already targeted Trump, and "other" candidates.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
          Replying to @okanogen2010 @Bwonk_Bwonk and

          Rand was linking through to piece about back door searches. I absolutely agree it is inflammatory to call that "wiretapping," even w/quotes

          3 replies 1 retweet 1 like
        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @okanogen2010 and

          But it is also the case that claim Gov needs warrant to do what Paul linked to (and thereby was talking about) is utterly false.

          2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
        7. okanogenDrinksBEER‏ @okanogen2010 5 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @Bwonk_Bwonk and

          But Paul linked to an unmasking article and was talking about warrantless wiretapping on candidates. So he is the one making false claims.

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 5 May 2017
          Replying to @okanogen2010 @Bwonk_Bwonk and

          No.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. okanogenDrinksBEER‏ @okanogen2010 5 May 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @Bwonk_Bwonk and

          Look. I followed your link to your article as directed (you are welcome for the click), and it describes meta-data collection and use. 1/

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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