And this view on "illegality" totally misunderstands the FISC precedent.In 2011 Bates OKed COMPLETELY domestic SCTs.
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Replying to @emptywheel @twrweb and
Which is why I think decision may be more generally abt SCTs, not MCTs. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/04/29/the-upstream-about-problem-almost-certainly-pertains-to-scts-not-mcts/ … Certainly has effect of ending that.
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I think we essentially mean the same. Email forward is MCT; email just mentioning a selector is SCT -- problem is NSA cant tell apart .. /1
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Replying to @twrweb @emptywheel and
MCT and SCT at collection time. That's what I wrote, too.
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Again, I agree forwarded emails are MCTs. But official docs say there are at least 2 kinds (maybe not all email).
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Replying to @emptywheel @twrweb and
The MCTs that were deemed problematic were in no way forwarded emails incl domestic USP. They included comms w/no tie to selector.
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Not sure if I get your point. Comms within MCT may have no tie to selector, but MCT has, otherwise wouldn't be collected in first place. /1
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Replying to @twrweb @emptywheel and
I don't intend to push or annoy you, but a precise example of an MCT you mean would really help. /2
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I don't know the technical answer. I know what has been claimed publicly. But remember this may not be emails.
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OK. Just btw, found this in the FISC opinion, which is one of my main points.pic.twitter.com/1Qn9GbfgL6
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Right. That's beside my point tho.
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Replying to @emptywheel @twrweb and
I'm not trying to be a jerk either. Just trying to get people who have potential solutions to tech q be aware of non tech claims.
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