@electrospaces @pwnallthethings I'd really appreciate to hear what you think about my post.https://twitter.com/twrweb/status/859424823574921217 …
I actually don't think that's correct anymore (that explanation dates to 2011). There are more than 2 kinds of MCTs. Only 2 were protected.
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You have a precise example of another MCT? I read your post where you said "which is when emails get sent in batches", but I doubt, b/c /1
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.. it's technically trivial to separate these emails. W'd IMO be clearly illegal if NSA did such collections. /2
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And this view on "illegality" totally misunderstands the FISC precedent.In 2011 Bates OKed COMPLETELY domestic SCTs.
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Which is why I think decision may be more generally abt SCTs, not MCTs. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/04/29/the-upstream-about-problem-almost-certainly-pertains-to-scts-not-mcts/ … Certainly has effect of ending that.
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I think we essentially mean the same. Email forward is MCT; email just mentioning a selector is SCT -- problem is NSA cant tell apart .. /1
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MCT and SCT at collection time. That's what I wrote, too.
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Again, I agree forwarded emails are MCTs. But official docs say there are at least 2 kinds (maybe not all email).
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The MCTs that were deemed problematic were in no way forwarded emails incl domestic USP. They included comms w/no tie to selector.
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Also, you far underestimate NSA's ability to get RU email. The Yahoo indictment cites emails sent between FSB officers.
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Really entirely domestic Russian emails (means: both email servers and both sender & recipient physically in RU)?
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Thank you, I know what "domestic" means. Don't condescend. It's unclear what emails FSB was using--at least one was also using Yahoo.
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But the indictment refers to emails bt Dokuchaev and Sushchin (both in RU) and bt FSB Officer 3 & Sushchin (both in RU).
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I'm convinced when they used Russian email servers, too.
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