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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @OmnivoreBlog @emptywheel

      does have pretty specific origin/propagation patterns. I'm certain u know that.

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @OmnivoreBlog

      Well, social media distributed sensation has specific propagation patterns (tho "traditional news' still propagated more)

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    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @OmnivoreBlog

      But that's separate phenom from "fake news," which only ever exists in false contradistinction with outlets that may exhibit similar traits.

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    4. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Agreed--but if u r trying to stop / flag fn, the kind of sieve u would need to catch the NYT article would need 2 b much different.

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    5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @OmnivoreBlog

      Yes. But the exercise in hunting out fake news without also applying some sieve to NYT is fruitless.

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    6. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Idk, I'd worry about bullshit op-eds after Russia. But YMMV.

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    7. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @OmnivoreBlog

      Not sure what you mean?

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    8. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I think that there are clear patterns I would attack (Russia amplifiers on FB) before building a system that would try to block NYT stories

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    9. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @OmnivoreBlog

      Even though every single quasi scientific data point says that NYT has greater influence and better retention and trust?

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    10. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      I'm not defending the article or its publication--I'm saying the fake news infection in social media is different.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @OmnivoreBlog

      I'm agreeing w/your sieve point. I'm just saying all data show non-credible news in credible outlets is more dangerous than news infection

      9:05 AM - 30 Apr 2017
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        1. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I am interested in that analysis as well--esp if referent to 2016 election (again, serious, non snark)

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