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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Apr 2017

      Honest question: How is publishing scientifically bogus columns in nation's most esteemed paper different than fake news?

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    2. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      As someone who is internationally interviewed on fake-news: 1. Published as opinion, not a story. 2. Distinctly diff signature than trad fn.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @OmnivoreBlog

      As someone who is ALSO internationally interviewed on fake news & w/related PhD. Nope. "Fake News" gets treated as an outlet.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      Meaning what, exactly?

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    5. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @OmnivoreBlog @emptywheel

      I mean, the vast majority of what we think of as traditional fn (either Russia prop, Macedonian teenagers, American trolling)

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    6. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @OmnivoreBlog @emptywheel

      does have pretty specific origin/propagation patterns. I'm certain u know that.

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Apr 2017
      Replying to @OmnivoreBlog

      Well, social media distributed sensation has specific propagation patterns (tho "traditional news' still propagated more)

      8:46 AM - 30 Apr 2017
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        2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @OmnivoreBlog

          But that's separate phenom from "fake news," which only ever exists in false contradistinction with outlets that may exhibit similar traits.

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        3. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Agreed--but if u r trying to stop / flag fn, the kind of sieve u would need to catch the NYT article would need 2 b much different.

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        4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @OmnivoreBlog

          Yes. But the exercise in hunting out fake news without also applying some sieve to NYT is fruitless.

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        5. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          Idk, I'd worry about bullshit op-eds after Russia. But YMMV.

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        6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @OmnivoreBlog

          Not sure what you mean?

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        7. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          I suspect that the NYT story spread faster thru liberal channels than conservative ones. Suspect not pushed by political actors (?)

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        8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @OmnivoreBlog

          That's 1) not what actual data show 2) irrelevant to the question of whether fake news exists bc real news lost credibility.

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        9. The Omnivore‏ @OmnivoreBlog 30 Apr 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel

          What does the data show? Serious, non-snark question. Do U have stats on spread of NYT article already?

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