... the world. So that's where I'd see the main change, not necessarily in the absolute moral / "how far we have fallen" dimension.
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I mean, America has embraced genocide before, so if past sins forfeit the right to oppose mass slaughter, that ship sailed long ago.
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That's not what I meant. Apart from being despicable (although not more despicable than past positions / actions), embracing and...
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... thus validating it *openly* constrains policy options and makes it harder to oppose it in the future.
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But maybe people won't let US get away with stuff it sometimes gets away with, if we don't have good grace of endorsing murder discreetly.
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I think that's wildly optimistic, but ymmv.
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I don't think that's optimistic. Voters don't like what is done in their name. 2008 is evidence of that.
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I think the best case scenario for almost all of Trump's exacerbation of existing bad US policies is they become visible and hated.
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You want to go thru
@NSArchive. The WL of US foreign policy. CRS does some good work as well. It's all in there.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @papicek @empiricalerror and
Yeah. But we hated those aspects of US foreign policy without them being widely "visible."
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Much of battle is making policies tribalists loved when "their" tribe did it toxic now that minority tribe doing it worse.
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Replying to @emptywheel @empiricalerror and
And yes, that's what this conversation is a good example of.
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Replying to @emptywheel @empiricalerror and
Yeah, well that's what I've been saying for 6 years now.
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