"You think we're so innocent?" No, we're not, but that doesn't make this less of a horrific change.
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Replying to @TheViewFromLL2
I obviously agree that this is a bad change. I'm not convinced the moral angle is the right way to look at it.
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Replying to @empiricalerror @TheViewFromLL2
Murder as a means of carrying out policy has been endorsed by the US (including US presidents) before. Largely behind the scenes, but...
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Replying to @empiricalerror @TheViewFromLL2
... endorsed nonetheless. That Trump does it openly, however, sends all kinds of bad, strategically stupid signals to assholes around...
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Replying to @empiricalerror @TheViewFromLL2
... the world. So that's where I'd see the main change, not necessarily in the absolute moral / "how far we have fallen" dimension.
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Replying to @empiricalerror
I mean, America has embraced genocide before, so if past sins forfeit the right to oppose mass slaughter, that ship sailed long ago.
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Replying to @TheViewFromLL2
That's not what I meant. Apart from being despicable (although not more despicable than past positions / actions), embracing and...
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Replying to @empiricalerror @TheViewFromLL2
... thus validating it *openly* constrains policy options and makes it harder to oppose it in the future.
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Replying to @empiricalerror @TheViewFromLL2
But maybe people won't let US get away with stuff it sometimes gets away with, if we don't have good grace of endorsing murder discreetly.
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Replying to @emptywheel @TheViewFromLL2
I think that's wildly optimistic, but ymmv.
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What was it Bob Gates always says? People are nice to US even tho we keep leaking secrets bc it's in their interest, not bc they like us?
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