Until Macron or someone else reveals these didn't FAIL, stories should be, "ho hum, nation-state tries, but fails, to do what others do."https://twitter.com/ThreatConnect/status/857573101659357185 …
Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.
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emptywheel Retweeted ThreatConnect, Inc.
Until Macron or someone else reveals these didn't FAIL, stories should be, "ho hum, nation-state tries, but fails, to do what others do."https://twitter.com/ThreatConnect/status/857573101659357185 …
emptywheel added,
Remember: Trump endorsed Le Pen. And I'd be willing to bet NSA's attempts to spy on Fr election are NOT failing. https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/04/25/nsas-spying-on-le-pen-is-probably-working-better-than-grus-spying-on-macron/ …
Hmm, spying isn't intervening, prez statements aren't false-flag, and it's better to help media literacy about trolls by exposure, than not.
You seem very naive abt spying. And abt propaganda.
Very likely. But these seem like poor arguments not to call out what one can.
What, that you don't understand spying and so fall prey to stupid propaganda about it? Yes, You should call yourself out.
Didn't mean to come across as hostile, and honestly would be open to new info, such as digital forensics.
I see, you meant that disinfo should be reported in the context of its (apparent lack of) efficacy. Totally agree.
I had misinterpreted it as claiming that disinfo need not be reported until proven to work (i.e. by succeeding in tilting an electorate).
People--both pros (they have incentives) and non--seem to forget that nation-state hacking is spying.
For some it may be forgetting, but for many laypeople like myself, I never knew the term 'spying' also covered active interventions.
What do you consider the boundaries of "active intervention"?
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