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Abundant tweets about civil liberties & national security. "Has a longer memory than an elephant & keeps more records than Jim Comey.” Legendary potty mouth.

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    1.  🤔Jake Laperruque 😒‏ @JakeLaperruque 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @JakeLaperruque @SeanVitka @FutureTenseNow

      that program was in no way codified. That line is a completely inaccurate description of the law

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    2. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @JakeLaperruque

      I'm kind of amused you guys are arguing over "some ways codified" and ALSO neither talking 12333. @SeanVitka

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3.  🤔Jake Laperruque 😒‏ @JakeLaperruque 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel

      my concern is with description of the status of a domestic bulk collection program @SeanVitka

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @JakeLaperruque

      Yeah. But you keep throwing around words @SeanVitka didn't use.

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    5.  🤔Jake Laperruque 😒‏ @JakeLaperruque 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @SeanVitka

      the words I'm concerned with "the program" as in the bulk nationwide untargeted collection 215 program

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @JakeLaperruque

      Yes, and fact that you're using 215 in isolation from impacts doesn't serve you well. IT WAS NEVER ENTIRE PROGRAM @SeanVitka

      1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
    7.  🤔Jake Laperruque 😒‏ @JakeLaperruque 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @SeanVitka

      the reference in the piece is to the 215 bulk collection program

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    8. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @JakeLaperruque

      Jake, Jake, Jake. Referring to a 215 program is repeating IC propaganda they used to dupe you. @SeanVitka

      2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
    9.  🤔Jake Laperruque 😒‏ @JakeLaperruque 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @SeanVitka

      No, it's referring to legal authority for nationwide bulk collection (which you know isn't permitted under EO 12333)

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    10. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @JakeLaperruque

      Um. When you actually read the docs on what the program did we can talk. You're missing the tech here. @SeanVitka

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      emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
      Replying to @emptywheel @JakeLaperruque

      Anyway, I'm glad you're in such a panic over 3 LITTLE WORDS. But you should learn more abt how this program works @SeanVitka

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        1.  🤔Jake Laperruque 😒‏ @JakeLaperruque 23 Mar 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @SeanVitka

          Okay, it's the entire meaning of the critique of the law in the piece but because its 3 words it's silly to complain

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        2.  🤔Jake Laperruque 😒‏ @JakeLaperruque 23 Mar 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @SeanVitka

          Go back and read the original Guardian article. Read the DOJ legal opinion. Read the PCLOB report.

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        3. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
          Replying to @JakeLaperruque

          Jake, UNLIKE YOU I've read primary documents. UNLIKE YOU, I've seen how analysts accessed this. DO NOT LECTURE ME @SeanVitka

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        4.  🤔Jake Laperruque 😒‏ @JakeLaperruque 23 Mar 2017
          Replying to @emptywheel @SeanVitka

          Then re-read all the things I mentioned because they all use program the way I do.

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        5. emptywheel‏ @emptywheel 23 Mar 2017
          Replying to @JakeLaperruque

          You realize the unlike things you've conflated there. Plus, ACLU not monolithic on that point. @SeanVitka

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